[completely_focused]

I was just trying to do 'play song' and it wouldn't work. I finally figured out that you needed the itunes file structure of Artist/Album/song.mp3. Before it was Artist/Artist - Song.mp3 and although songs would play automatically, I couldn't use the voice commands to play a certain song. Plus, I may have had some errors on the tags, but I'm not sure.

Then I wanted to see if "USB 2 browse all artists" would work and finally after getting the above file structure right it did work. Once you select an artist or album to start playing then you can use the seek buttons on the steering wheel to advance tracks etc... When it's working it's great, I just hope everyone else can get their problems sorted out.

Oh yea, and the USB 2 switched to USB 1 after I turned the car off and back on. That made me think it wasn't working but all I had to do was look down at the lower left hand corner and see that the currently running USB was USB 1.

If you do the test with a small amount of albums and you see "building media commands" for an extended amount of time then something is wrong. It could be anything as there are a lot variables and no one but Ford and their special techs know what they are. I wish they would offer the special training to me as I would love to learn this system inside and out.

 

[MGbox]

I think you got the right idea. Bring a small thumb drive with a few songs and show the tech that it NEVER builds media commands.

But yeah, a sync/mft stickied thread might be helpful. Universal go to thread for sync info instead of new threads every week.
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[TehMark]

In the 3 days I've had my car I've realized sync is a pile of shit with audio commands and ipods.

 

[Starfury]

I wonder why Sync with MFT is so much more problematic than Sync with USB?

I have Sync with USB in my SE Hatch, and it worked as soon as I plugged-in my Flash Drive. "Play Artist", "Play Track", "Play Album", etc. It worked immediately. It is a Lexar 64 GB drive and is almost completely full.

I have no idea why MFT makes everything such a hassle.

Good luck to everyone, and I hope it gets fixed ASAP.

 

[cobie56]

Iv been using mft since june with both 2.10 and 2.11 and when using my ipod via bluetooth or usb. Ive not had any issues. It all works seamlessly altho a tad slow for my taste

 

[estoyloco]

What are you using to check ID tags? I haven't tried that yet but browsing through touchscreen everything seems to be in order. I, too, have tried checking on the properties with what's playing and it seems to read everything I've tested back fine.

I am using Mp3tag at http://www.mp3tag.de/en/download.html to check the files.

Also it shows up fine in all my Windows Apps, and my $30 Sansa Clip+, and even the MFT system reads and displays ID tag info as well as speaks what's playing fine.

But the voice command is total $h1t.

BTW just a highlight I've had a few freeze-ups and 1 BSOD/restart since the 2.11 update. Not nearly as much as 2.10. But 2.11 update did more damage than good. It seems to be less functional than ever.

 

[copernicium112]

I wonder why Sync with MFT is so much more problematic than Sync with USB?

I have Sync with USB in my SE Hatch, and it worked as soon as I plugged-in my Flash Drive. "Play Artist", "Play Track", "Play Album", etc. It worked immediately. It is a Lexar 64 GB drive and is almost completely full.

I have no idea why MFT makes everything such a hassle.

Good luck to everyone, and I hope it gets fixed ASAP.

Well, I haven't had the time to experiment yet so I can't say if it is Sync/Mft or just the fact that it may be iPod related. I still have yet to try a USB drive. I use the iPod in my house so I did want to get a large dedicated USB anyway as the long-term plan. Just don't have a large enough one yet which is why I was using the iPod.

 

[completely_focused]

Makes me scared to ever get it updated in the future. I have the factory installed 2.11 and it works great for me so far. I'm going to post a similar video estoyloco made only showing how it works fine in my system. I used a 2Gig Sandisk Cruzer with about 227 files on it which was 3/4 full and the thing indexed in a few seconds and then the building media commands didn't take long at all. After it finished building media commands everything worked fantastic and even though I didn't record moving around the menus it responded much quicker than estoyloco's did. Maybe estoyloco can use my vid to show his dealer as a comparison of what a working system should do.

Video is currently rendering in power director as I type.

 

[TdK71]

You are crazy...I spotted the problem right away. Instead of Brittany Spears and Eminem you need to be playing some Disturbed, Five Finger Death Punch or All That Remains.[headbang]

Actually, MFT is as flawed as a $2 hooker. I'm not sure they can ever get it to work without any glitches or problems.

+1million on the music selections that's gotta be what it is [thumb]

 

[JPopNC]

I believe there is some validity in allowing MFT to finish "building media commands" before trying to do too much with it. I did experience issues at first and most of those were happening while it displayed that or "Indexing". Think of all the variations/permuations it has to identify, so letting it finish that out is critical.

I have over 2000 songs on my iPod Classic (160GB) and have no issues calling them by artist, playlist, or song title (although by song title it is painfully slow since it searches through quite abit more).

I do have all my songs on iTunes, so maybe it is more comfortable with how songs are categorized in iTunes.

 

[completely_focused]

As promised, here is the video of my working system:

 

[copernicium112]

I believe there is some validity in allowing MFT to finish "building media commands" before trying to do too much with it. I did experience issues at first and most of those were happening while it displayed that or "Indexing". Think of all the variations/permuations it has to identify, so letting it finish that out is critical.

I have over 2000 songs on my iPod Classic (160GB) and have no issues calling them by artist, playlist, or song title (although by song title it is painfully slow since it searches through quite abit more).

I do have all my songs on iTunes, so maybe it is more comfortable with how songs are categorized in iTunes.

Did you let "building media commands" finish in one session? If so, how long did it take?

 

[estoyloco]

As promised, here is the video of my working system:

Wow CF thx for the video I can definitely use this against the dealer. It is night and day from my system. Yours seems so responsive. I literally have to wait seconds (5-15) in between beeps, when I speak, and when it actually recognizes something. Yours is almost as if it recognizes it instantly as soon as you speak the command.

If you could do me a favor and leave that up for awhile. Unfortunately I cannot goto my dealership until every other Friday, next on Sept 2, due to time conflicts with work. Usually that means I will have to go another weekend without a car or loaner again, and pick up the car on Monday when they "finish" working on my car.

On a side note, I just have to make this comment:

<start sarcasm>

Okay I don't mean to be a dick, but really dude? First of all you don't even know how to properly use the voice commands

It is your

"own failures at using the SYNC voice commands properly. If he had read the manual or done it before he'd know to say the device before the command to play artist, so he spent time complaining about it not playing the artist when he wasn't even correctly using the commands.

You totally did not follow the above advice (is it even advice?), I label you ultimate fail.
</end sarcasm>

 

[estoyloco]

So got some good news.

For the first time it finally finished building media commands. I think that is the key for the MFT system to work correctly.

I had 138 songs in 950MB worth of data. It took 5 minutes to index and 1 minute to finish building media command. This was a huge shocker since it has never done it this quick before; infact first time completing building commands. In a previous test I actually had left the vehicle on for 3 hours with the MFT system indexing/building commands, only to come back and find it in the same state I left it.

The only downside is after I turn off the engine and system shuts down, it will have to go through the entire process when I turn on the system again.

Nothing was changed to the files themselves. I finally caved in and installed itunes, ran Sync my iTunes and all files came back perfect, nothing needed to be updated.
File structure was still Drive:\Artist\Album\Song.mp3.

So anyways I was able to issue all my commands "Play Artist <name>" "Play Song <name>" "Play Album <name>" perfectly without much of a delay.
<sarcasm got to have it>And yes I was a moron and did not read the manual and did not say the device name before issuing my "Play" commands. What an idiot huh? If only I knew how to work the system... Stupid! Stupid! Stupid! </sarcasm>

 

[estoyloco]

Spoke way too soon, turned off the car for about 1 minute. Went back turned it on.
Indexing... Took 10 minutes to complete. Building media commands still going on 15 minutes, got tired of waiting, called it quits and left.
The thumb drive was never removed from the console.

If only the programmers that designed the MFT had insight to think, hey you know what is a great idea? Let's locally cache the index/voice command file. So that way maybe when owners turn on the system we won't have to run the same thing over and over again. And maybe lets implement a system that detects or allows users to manually refresh this cache when needed.

Because if they did and it is present in the current MFT system, it definitely does not work on mine.

 

[PratoN]

Wow CF thx for the video I can definitely use this against the dealer. It is night and day from my system. Yours seems so responsive. I literally have to wait seconds (5-15) in between beeps, when I speak, and when it actually recognizes something. Yours is almost as if it recognizes it instantly as soon as you speak the command.

I have this problem as well. My iPod has over 3000 songs (not sure if that's a lot or not...) but when I request a song, it fairly quickly responds "playing song ____" but then I have 30 seconds of dead silence before the song starts. Are other people having this issue?

 

[Mattdoommaster]

I wonder why Sync with MFT is so much more problematic than Sync with USB?

I have Sync with USB in my SE Hatch, and it worked as soon as I plugged-in my Flash Drive. "Play Artist", "Play Track", "Play Album", etc. It worked immediately. It is a Lexar 64 GB drive and is almost completely full.

I have no idea why MFT makes everything such a hassle.

My guess is that Sync is installed as software along with MFT, and they share processor resources. If this is the case, Sync might have issues if MFT was already burdening the processor.

It'd be interesting to crack open a service manual for a 2012 Focus and see what's actually behind the dash board.

 

[PratoN]

It'd be interesting to crack open a service manual for a 2012 Focus and see what's actually behind the dash board.

If Ford wants to match my salary, I'd have no problem troubleshooting for them. ^_^ But I don't have time for that right now.

 

[feta_mgp]

I'm not even going to dignify a response to all of the sarcastic and otherwise disrespectful posts you've responded to mine with. You DID end up saying USB first, I did watch the video but your slow speech and lack of knowledge before the system told you how to use it properly wasted my time.

How many times do people have to tell you to suggest to your dealership that you have HARDWARE issues? Indexing and building media commands is something the firmware is coded to do but of course if you have bad or corrupted hardware powering your system it's not going to work correctly. You will have issues.

I know I've mentioned this as well as others in many of the OTHER THREADS DISCUSSING MFT ISSUES that you clearly seem to be ignoring because you just want all the attention on here instead of contributing to other already ongoing discussions.

I'm not here to argue with you I'm just here to offer constructive criticism. I don't know about you but if my dealership would have said no to updating my system which had no issues I'd have raised a $h!tstorm until it got done. If you have issues, you need to get them resolved. Show your videos, show your car to them, do the normal things you'd do to get issues to pop up, take them for a drive even, but when it comes down to it don't take no for an answer otherwise you get strung along like you are being now.

And please, stop with being such a sarcastic @$$ to me, I'm merely trying to get you to post in already relevant threads instead of creating unnecessary clutter to our forum, but you just have to take it all so personally all the time. You didn't seem to know your way around the system in your video, I was just pointing out that maybe a manual read through and some practice will do you some good. And maybe a little patience too.

 

[Kabigon]

\ If he had read the manual or done it before he'd know to say the device before the command to play artist, so he spent time complaining about it not playing the artist when he wasn't even correctly using the commands.

No.

When playing music from my Zune or USB flash drive, I can say "play song xxx" or "play artist xxx" (without the device name) and it works correctly.