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MK1 Focus Weirdness

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3K views 28 replies 6 participants last post by  proshopperlinda_2251  
#1 ·
Hi there,
I've been running into a weird issue that I've been trying to resolve with my 03 Focus ZX-5 (a/t). So my car has been essentially surging forward when I'm at a stop with my foot on the brakes. Sometimes, when I put the car in reverse, the revs are really high. If I keep my foot on the brakes (it'll go up to 2-3K rpm's just fighting me), it will eventually stall out and I have to restart the vehicle. It started doing this when I'm driving the vehicle in drive and stuck in traffic (my mechanic said the sensors for the transmission are fine as well). I'll hear an occasional click, it used to be more prominent (I noticed the lights would flicker as well as the LCD for the mileage). You've named it, I've probably had it replaced. Throttle body and alternator, replaced. My mechanic says there isn't a vacuum leak. I checked all the relays, nothing. When I checked the relays, I noticed R24 on the driver's side was hot (the source of the clicking noise). I did research, someone had a similar issue and it said a bad ground somewhere associated with the wiring that leads to the alternator, I replaced that whole set (battery leads and all). Issue is more noticeable with the A/C on. If I take my foot off the accelerator, sometimes the car will keep accelerating. I checked to see if the pedal was sticking but it's not. I thought maybe the fan was the problem because when it kicked in, the car would surge. Read up on the pigtails going bad on the fan connector, sure enough, it was bad. I also replaced the fan resistor relay since it was melted as well. When I start it, it starts at a higher RPM, like if I were stepping on the accelerator as I started it. I honestly have no clue what else to do.

I know you could say I should junk it but the car has sentimental value to me. My deceased father bought it for me while I was in college (my first almost new car). I can do some repairs myself but not everything. Any assistance is greatly appreciated!
 
#4 ·
Hopefully this goes through. I have the 2.0L Zetec. Sorry for the late response, it's been impossible for me to verify my account for some reason, I had to reach out to support. Edit: I replaced the IAC Valve over the weekend (my god what a pain)and the issue still persists. The PCV valve hose was replaced a few years ago and it's the one with the shielding to protect it. I wonder if I have an electrical gremlin somewhere because I can hear the relay inside the car clicking. Or could a vacuum leak be causing that as well?
 
#7 ·
Okay, I was able to get it to run until it's stalled. I noticed that when the car stalled out if I am staring at the front of the engine the front left where the passenger side is made a hissing noise after it cut out so I'm guessing that's where my vacuum leak would be correct? It's towards the back left.
 
#8 ·
PCV hose in back of motor by that location. Also, a new throttle body if vacuum leak at it due to incompetent tightening, it being plastic and warps easy if too tight. A new base gasket MUSTY be used too and common to try to reuse them as they 'look OK'. Big mistake. Vacuum leak.
 
#10 ·
Update: I replaced the evap purge valve thinking that was the issue because I thought that's where the hiss was coming from. No luck. :( one thing I did notice, I don't know if the surge is so strong or I'm losing vacuum on the brakes because they're all the way to the floor when it happens and the brakes just seem weak.
 
#18 ·
Another update. I was able to change the knock sensor on the car yesterday. It didn't seem to cut out and I was hopeful that maybe my issue was resolved. I did a test drive and yeah, the car is still accelerating while my foot is NOT on the pedal. I again had to have my foot to the floor on the pedal to stop my car from surging forward. I thought as a quick test to see if the brake booster was bad was to turn on the car, push the brake all the way down wait a few minutes, turn off the car, and if the brake pushes back up at you, then you have a vacuum leak. I didn't get that but maybe I did it wrong. I have a smoke machine so that's the next project for this weekend. If I do have a vacuum leak on the brake booster, will the smoke test show that? Is there a spot I can connect my smoke machine to verify that? Edit: I'd also like to thank everyone who has been chiming in, you ALL have been helpful. I'm definitely learning a lot doing all this.
 
#19 ·
So I used my smoke generator and hooked it up to most vacuum ports. I didn't see anything. :( I'm at a complete loss. Maybe the brake booster has a vacuum leak but the engine works hard enough to maintain pressure despite the leak? I have one of those fancy OBD readers, is there something I should monitor while the car is running with my scanner to help me help narrow down the issue. I'm not pulling any codes besides the P1000 code since I keep disconnecting the battery when working on things.
 
#20 ·
So I dropped off the Focus at another mechanic (that has a great reputation in my area) and after he looked at it, he suggested taking it to the Ford dealer and have them flash the ECU. I'll be picking up the vehicle tomorrow. Should I try a Hail Mary and disconnect the battery and see if it the ECU will relearn? I still find it weird that was his advice because I think even with faulty programming, I wouldn't hear a relay clicking.
 
#24 ·
That sounds like it idles OK, but maybe a bit low. I'm wondering if it may be that when you put it in drive, the engine may move to much due to worn mounts. Maybe there is some issue with the throttle cable snagging on something and yanking the throttle open? It may even be that the shifting of the engine may cause a seemingly OK vacuum hose to flex and open up, and cause a vacuum leak.
If you have to push on the brakes hard to keep it from moving, and if it idles OK, that is a strange situation. I don't think a bad IAC valve would even cause that. Have you tried testing it with the throttle cables disconnected?
 
#25 ·
Yeah, mounts have been replaced more than once. Throttle cable has been checked as well. However, the weird thing is at park and neutral, the engine should stop shifting and not stall out if it were a case of the engine moving and pinching the vacuum hose. I have an appointment for Saturday but they're coming in a van to check it out tomorrow. I'll keep you all updated on the saga of the Focus.
 
#27 ·
I happened to see your post and read it all the way through! I have a 2003 5(door) can't remember the initials with it even after 21 years! I'm having a similar problem with surging. I thought my big feet were hitting the accelerator causing the RPM's to go up! I will have to ask my mechanic to check for a vacuum leak. The engine races when I put it in reverse - first time I drive it. The idly normally RPM's are usually 700 but if it acts like it wants to stall if I turn on my AC it'll idle fine - usually at 750-1000! I think I have several problems. Parts are hard to come by since Ford quit stocking parts on 2003. My mechanic had to make a part (thank heavens!) the last time I had issues with drive-ability. If it's too expensive to fix all problems I may be looking at a hybrid Maverick truck. I hope you find all your problems and they're an easy fix! I understand the emotional attachment to your car. My grandmother gave me her car (Tempo) and I kept that girl going as long as I could!