What can you tell me about the 2016 Automatic ? I currently have a 2013 and haven't had any issues now the GF is looking at a 2016 sedan auto. Any good points/bad. Is the tranny still iffy ?
2016 Good Bad ??????
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Sadly dealers will not tell you about the DCT. I mentioned to my sale guy that I'm here looking for a new car because the transmission is going out on my Honda so I need something new. If he was a guy who was trustworthy he would've told me to look at another Ford because the focus I was looking at would be a new car with a weird transmission. Well I'm one of the people who thought the focus would be good since its a FORD which is the only brand I have owned since 2005. Guess I was wrong and I don't blame the dealer. I blame myself for not researching the focus thoroughly and I did get the exact car I set foot In the dealer looking for. Lucky I work nights and I see stop and go traffic a few times every something years so this doesn't effect me. So far this car and transmission has been smooth for me and I enjoy the car with this transmission now. But I also fear stop and go traffic because I read stories of these trans heating up. Yep they say drive with big gaps between stop and go traffic to avoid heating up the clutches but why? When I set out for a automatic the day I walked into the dealer. Oh well.. right?
Ive been driving a manual trans mustang gt daily since 2005. I'm use to the rubber band shifting at times. what I'm not use to is the shuddering or jerky take offs I never experienced in my real properly driven manual trans mustang.
Good luck with your transmission.
So avoid any car with a DCT. Also Cvt transmission has many issues also so avoid those also. My next car will have a normal automatic.
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And why does your experience have to do with the 2016 model?
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Who lied??
If you get the model with the DCT it has everything to do with the 2016 and my reply. The issues from 2012 to 2015 will happen in the 2016, IF you buy the model with the 6 speed auto. If you buy the model with the normal auto or manual trans then you'll be fine and my reply would be nulled.
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My 2014 and now 2015 DCTs were fine. And there are some slight changes to the 2015 DCT which carry over into 2016.
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Exactly. The 2012-2014 DCT haste different clutch packs than the 2015-2016. Also TCM programming is deferent and I would assume they would use the newer TCM.
So again what does you 2014 have to do with the 2016??
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That may be so. But i would not recommend a 2016 with a DCT unless you like the idea of dual clutches. So yes my 2014 has everything to do with the DCT in the 2016 since they both use a dual clutch dry system. The DCT in the 2012+ has went through many clutch pack and tcm revisions and people are still having issues. The design sucks no matter what update ford has done and i would not trust the 2016 DCT either. This is my opinion and if it was me i would get a 2016 with a torque converter automatic or manual trans.
Dual clutch design transmissions (DCT, DSG) suck in everyday cars.
My 2014 is smooth as a baby bottoms 99% of the time for me. [strongman] For others there not so lucky.
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Not mine. You probably need to trade yours in, get rid of it.
Funny how you were fine with the car until you find out it doesn't have a torque converter. Then all of a sudden, it sucks.
The lesson here for those considering a 2016 DCT equipped Focus: If you know the DCT does not have a torque converter and you absolutely require a torque converter, don't purchase a Focus at all. There are plenty of other C segment vehicles to choose from which have torque converters.
Another lesson: The 2015 / 2015 DCTs have changed albeit slightly from 2012-2014. If you are deciding on a 2016 DCT vehicle, drive it for yourself, and see how you like it.
Unfortunately, some like yourself require a torque converter. In that case, any Focus from 2012 on will not meet your needs. Including as you have noted a 2016.
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The 1.0L Automatic in the 2016+ Focus will fulfill their desire for a torque converter with it's standard planetary automatic transmission (6F15).
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Sir, that is not true. I only started researching deeply when my car started slipping on hard turns when you get back onto the gas pedal soon as you complete the turn. On the test drive if i would've taken a couple hard turns i would've said, "Mr, Salesman the transmission in this car is failing.. its slipping like my old honda" Which means the car didn't slip or shudder on the test drive, and i wouldn't be on this forum today.
If your deciding on a 2016 DCT car. Just dont drive it like the sales man wants you to. Be sure to drive it the way you would drive normally after you brought the car. Highway speeds, stop and go simulation, hard take offs, soft take offs. Do it all.
As mentioned on page 1.
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Ok, so in your case, it sounds like it met your needs until it started slipping. Once a DCT has some combination of mechanical or electronic problems then 1000's (if not tens of thousands) of posts have established it won't meet anyone's needs.
Which hearkens to the OP's question intent: How much less (if any) likely is a 2016 equipped DCT to experience problems vs. a 2012-2014 equipped DCT?
That is a difficult question to answer as the 2015-2016's don't yet have the sample size of mileage and service units to test correlations against.
One thing to note: Sounds like you are completely lifting throttle during turns. I don't know that you need to do that.
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Renault cars uses the same Getrag 6DCT250 on their cars in europe and there are no reports of problems over there....
Focus models from 2015 comes with a new set of clutches and a new programming on TCM, improved a lot, but Ford insists that the transmission make smooth changes and try to copy a conventional automatic transmission, Renault does not do that .... ...... must be why it never had problems.
Focus models from 2015 comes with a new set of clutches and a new programming on TCM, improved a lot, but Ford insists that the transmission make smooth changes and try to copy a conventional automatic transmission, Renault does not do that .... ...... must be why it never had problems.
You told the salesman you were replacing your Honda, but have had only ford's since 2005.
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If the Honda is older than a 2005, then it could be true. Since 2005, only purchased Fords.
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Semantics?
Who cares really. He bought a defective car and the newer ones have a lower defect rate.
That's pretty much all there is to it.
Want a better DCT get one from 2015 and up.
Who cares really. He bought a defective car and the newer ones have a lower defect rate.
That's pretty much all there is to it.
Want a better DCT get one from 2015 and up.
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There was no lies told. It was a mistake how i typed it out.
I actually was replacing a winter beater i had for a short amount of time. I've owned a mustang every year since 2005.
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1997 Mustang GT
1995 Mustang GT
So, i actually did own a Honda, but it was very short lived. I owned my mustangs since 2005. I went into the dealer because the transmission went out on my newly acquired winter beater Honda.
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So, what's the verdict on the 2016 DCTs ? I'm considering trading my '14 Ti for a 16, but I'm wavering between another Ti, or opting for a loaded SE, and losing my remote start that I love so much. Are any of the 16's experiencing the shudders? Also, is there a slush box option for the 16 Ti ?
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What'd the OP end up w/?
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