first things first what turbo.....you should get the toms kit and it has everything you need.... it is possible to run on stock internals but its not good for the engine...if you want a nice setup then get all new internals and be sure to get a blow off valve...alot of people just want one for the sound but it actually helps ALOT

 

the kit i want comes with mostly everything the GUDE turbo for bout $3700 comes with a decent blow off and all intercooler but i was wondering if thats all i need for now just to get started will it all be alright? how much to tune and all about?

 

eek...i havent heard many good things about the gude turbo...and i know nothing about it because ive been told its not with it

 

GUDE YOU SAY?

i advise you to stay away.......

go custom or tom lesperance's kit.

 

you need $$$MONEY$$$

 

you can run boost on stock internals. If you have $4k get toms stg1 kit and tuning and a good exhaust and you will have very close to 200 whp.

 

I heard the turbo setup at Precision Turbo & Engine is a really good setup. And just in your price range. I would save up a little more money for the install and tuning as well though.

 

Turbos are great but don't overlook supercharging there are some great kits out there!
Also with a great power increase the stock clutch will not do, and if do clutch you may as well do the flywheel. Wheather turbo or supercharging the stock engine can handle it, Stock boost that is 5-6 psi.
But the problem with turbos and supercharging is the temptation to increase boost and this a stock engine will not take it. If it was me I would supercharge the power is there as so as hit gas plus with turbo there that sudden boost of power after 3000rpm which put get stress on engine and tranmission that's why superchargers come with 100 000 mile warranty. I have owned turbo's and no turbo come with that kind of warranty

 

Man you don't need anymore money, go custom.

 

yeah i would also go with the supercharger. vortechs kit is just under 4 grand and you could only afford toms stg1 kit. and even with vortech, there is plenty of room to boost after you build the engine up, but with stock internals your still gonna see nice gains. i know if i had 4 grand to spend on my car that is definitely what i would buy. but also seeing that you have no mods to your car, you might wanna consider other things first. like complete exhaust, and a throttle body before you get boosted.

 

you can get the vortech non aftercooled for like 2600$ with tuning from cfm right now plus a hundred dollar amil in rebate

 

You need money, fore-thought, money, mechanical aptitude, money, patience, money, persistance, money, ingenuity, money, attention to detail, money, resourcefulness, money, self-control, money, more patience, and money.

Plus you need some extra money in case it still all goes bad.

 

You need money, fore-thought, money, mechanical aptitude, money, patience, money, persistance, money, ingenuity, money, attention to detail, money, resourcefulness, money, self-control, money, more patience, and money.

Plus you need some extra money in case it still all goes bad.

Every one knows all you need is MONEY $$$. You dont have to know jack crap on how a car works. If you got the $$$ you can get any turbo setup you want.

The Power works s/c by Cosworth is a kit you may want to look at. It has made me change my mind about the turbo idea.

 

You need money, fore-thought, money, mechanical aptitude, money, patience, money, persistance, money, ingenuity, money, attention to detail, money, resourcefulness, money, self-control, money, more patience, and money.

Plus you need some extra money in case it still all goes bad.

Well that's certainly what I would call honesty!

Turbocharging on a tight budget and with little know-how and a Gude kit to boot is a recipe for one sad Focus owner. I am by no means "turbo-knowledgeable" but I have learned enough to know that there are more unhappy Gude kit owners than happy ones who have told their stories here. The common thread that runs through all the disaster stories is that the person failed to get or even consider proper tuning after sticking a turbocharger on their engine.

I would say that those who have suggested considering a supercharger are on the right track, the supercharger kits are easier to work with and cheaper to buy and more "idiot-proof" if you'll pardon the use of the term. People get their heart set on the idea of a turbo because it's sexier and more "fast and furious" I guess but the supercharger can do just as well for you.

 

So are you saying that the turboupgrade for the zetech engine from GUDE is not a good
choice. I was thinkin of buying one from www.turbo-kits.com

Alex

 

Not saying its bad or saying its good. Its just not 100% approved by alot of Focus guys. I got no persoanl expereince with it so I couldn't really tell you but alot of ppl, hear the word Gude and they laugh. Any turbo you get make sure you get it tuned good. Toms kit provides it. Also if you drive over to Precision and get there kit they can also tune it for you. Anything else just do a custom SCT tune

Kits like a JRSC, Power works all though there supercharger are alot less stressful and the Power Works it capable of making some serious numers. Yes there is the Vortech to but honestly LOL I look at all the peices in the kit and its just AHHHHH...

 

aha ok if feel you on that. and the thing is that i live in sweden, and you know,
a turbokit isnt cheap. so i wanna get things right, and I wanna have a kit that
works to a 100%. So is there anybody that you can recomend that I can buy the kit from.
And I wanna lay around 90 and up HP gain. []

Take care!
Alex

 

Princealexander do you have the 2.0L or 1.8L? Cuz the gude kit will only work with the 2.0L. Also the reason why people stay away from gude is becuz he claims that his kits have proper tuning but in reality he doesnt and lots of engines have blown up becuz of it. Also apparently he likes to use used turbos in his kits as well.

 

lol gude sucks...... its like chode but not.. or more like gooch

 

To people who think cosworth supercharger kit is the best solution for forced induction,they want 5,000$ for roots type supercharger,plus from my experience they did the tuning on the svt focus which we know is not that perfect.I still think a good engineered turbo kit for a four cylinder engine is the answer for FI .[8D]

 

Guy.... One word COSWORTH!!!!! Is there much to exaplin about it?

 

Cosworth did not do the tuning on the SVT Focus. They may have had some input and offered some of their knowledge but they are not exclusively responsible for the car. The SVT isn't that bad when you consider what they had to work with and the price range they were trying to keep it in.

My impression of the Cosworth kit from what I have been able to read so far is that it is a well-made and -engineered unit that includes everything you need to make the installation happen. Whether or not it's worth the money I don't know yet.

 

The kit is a pricey kit but you do have to pay to play and this means playing with Cosworth. Not cheap at all. The kit is a full bolt on kit. Out of box and install. I heard install times being from 6 hours to 12 hours in your very own garage. Im assuming that for someone knowing what there doing so Im guessing a good day or 2 for a newbie.

I plan on running the Power Works with full 4-1 race, flex, cams, cam gears, and custom tuned SCT chip and ODP. Thats the future goal.

Any way back to Turbo

For someone doing or wanting to do the turbo the Precision is a good kit to look at. Its not to crazy priced. The new Precision kits do offer an upgraded ECU but its not the best. Even precision says the gains are better if you do go with a better/custom ecu. The kit claims to be full bolt on. I havent seen it in person so I wouldt know. I talked to a guy who put it on his car and the kit looks very nice from what I could tell. he had Precision tune it rigth at there shop. He said he has not ran into any probs and he's loving it. The kit may not come with the "Best" parts but it is a good start. Like I said above. ECU could be better, bigger injectors and I beleive it is a internal wastegate.

Toms is also a sweet kit for ppl needing a good start and want the serious power. Only down fall is price. He's asking $5400US for his full kit. Bring that to Canada and your looking at $7-8g for a turbo. [???] YIKES!!!! Guess it depends what route you want to go. Either way you go you cant cheap out.

 

Here's a snippet from their October press release:

"The kit adds a huge boost in performance and works with all body styles (hatchback, sedan or wagon) of 2000-2004 Focus 2.0L Zetec vehicles with manual transmissions. PowerWorks provides a complete, turn-key upgrade by adding an Eaton/Magna Charger M62, positive displacement, roots-type supercharger, air-to-water intercooler, complete CARB-legal calibration, larger throttle body, new air induction and ALL accessories required for installation.

Installation is straightforward and can be completed easily by competent do-it-yourselfers with basic tools in about 5 hours. No cutting, welding, or fabrication is required and the car can be returned to stock at any time with no undue effects. Even the smallest details have been addressed by Cosworth Technology’s engineering team so that items usually ignored in aftermarket kits – like the vacuum lines and wiring harnesses – are “plug and play”, requiring no modifications to the factory components."

In other words, you get what you pay for. It may be expensive but it makes the Jackson Racing supercharger look like an incomplete attempt in comparison. The CARB certification coupled with the numbers it's putting out is worth the price to me (if I had the money!) since I live in California and to remain street legal it would have to be CARB approved which a turbo system would not be.

 

Here's a snippet from their October press release:

"The kit adds a huge boost in performance and works with all body styles (hatchback, sedan or wagon) of 2000-2004 Focus 2.0L Zetec vehicles with manual transmissions. PowerWorks provides a complete, turn-key upgrade by adding an Eaton/Magna Charger M62, positive displacement, roots-type supercharger, air-to-water intercooler, complete CARB-legal calibration, larger throttle body, new air induction and ALL accessories required for installation.

Installation is straightforward and can be completed easily by competent do-it-yourselfers with basic tools in about 5 hours. No cutting, welding, or fabrication is required and the car can be returned to stock at any time with no undue effects. Even the smallest details have been addressed by Cosworth Technology’s engineering team so that items usually ignored in aftermarket kits – like the vacuum lines and wiring harnesses – are “plug and play”, requiring no modifications to the factory components."

In other words, you get what you pay for. It may be expensive but it makes the Jackson Racing supercharger look like an incomplete attempt in comparison. The CARB certification coupled with the numbers it's putting out is worth the price to me (if I had the money!) since I live in California and to remain street legal it would have to be CARB approved which a turbo system would not be.

EXACTLY!!! After reading that who wouldnt want to get it. Now say that was a company like Gude claiming that you would be kind of sketchy but since its Cosworth you have to beleive it LOL