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Street-race crash kills 7 in crowd

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From CNN...Update

ACCOKEEK, Maryland (AP) -- Thick smoke and dark conditions likely meant the driver of a car that plowed into a group of people on a suburban road early Saturday, killing eight, never saw the crowd, police said. The deadly crash happened when about 50 people who had gathered to watch a drag race spilled onto the highway to watch two racing cars speed off. Police said the white sedan was not involved in the street race but accidentally drove into the crowd.

"There were just bodies everywhere; it was horrible," said Crystal Gaines, 27, whose father was among the dead. Gaines said she grabbed her child but could not help her father, William Gaines Sr., 61. "He wasn't breathing, he wasn't moving," she said. "His body was in pieces." Gaines said the car did not have its lights on, but police could not confirm that.

The white sedan hit people standing on the side of Route 210 around 3:40 a.m., Prince George's County Police Cpl. Clinton Copeland said. A tractor-trailer that came by shortly afterward may also have struck someone on the road as it tried to avoid the crash, he said. "It's probably one of the worst scenes I've seen," Copeland said. "This is a situation that could have been avoided, and it's a very tragic situation."

The victims ranged in age from their 20s to 60s, police said. Seven people were pronounced dead at the scene, and an eighth died later at a hospital. At least five people were injured.

Hours after the accident on the divided highway in Accokeek, bodies covered in white sheets were scattered along what police were calling a 200-yard crime scene. Some were in the road, while others were on the shoulder.

The sedan came to a rest on an embankment about 150 feet from where the crowd had been. It had a crumpled front and hood, and the roof had partially collapsed. The driver of the white sedan had been interviewed and did not appear to be seriously hurt, Police Capt. Donald Frick said. Police said a body found in the car was one of the spectators and not a passenger as they had previously reported.

According to police, two cars had lined up for a race on the smooth and relatively flat and straight stretch of highway. They spun their wheels, kicking up smoke, then sped off, Copeland said. The crowd then moved into the road to watch the cars drive away. The combination of the smoke and the dark morning likely meant the driver of the approaching white sedan could not see the crowd. No charges were pending. Authorities were looking for the drivers of the two cars involved in the race.

Authorities were working to identify the victims by showing digital photos of them to bystanders who said loved ones had been hurt. John Courtney said after viewing one of the images that his brother, Mark, 33, was among the dead. "He liked going to the race track, watching races," Courtney said. "It's going to take a toll on my family for a long time."

Investigators had "more questions than answers," Copeland said. Route 210 has two lanes in each direction and traffic lights about every 150 to 200 yards in Accokeek, about 20 miles south of Washington. In that area, the road is flanked by some businesses but has little traffic in the early hours, Copeland said. Frick said it's common in the summer for police to deal with reports of motorcycles racing on the highway, which is relatively smooth with long straightaways, but he said they have not had as much of an issue with cars.

Here's a link to a video of the aftermath...sad.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/US/02/16/drag.race.deaths.ap/index.html#cnnSTCVideo
 
#3 ·
Stupid...Needless...and Tragic

(Trying not to go on a rant here...) [paranoid]
 
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#4 ·
^^agreed. everyone is at fault here especially the poepe who stepped out in the road.
thats just asking to get hit....
 
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#5 ·
Just to teach a lesson to everyone there, I hope every person there that was watching gets some type of punishment. If they charge the surviving spectators with 8 counts of murder, I'm sure one of them will come forward with info on the two competing vehicles.
 
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WTF! think about what happened here.

Let's look at some facts about this case, some details are incriminating by their very omission.

1. A group of pedestrians was struck and killed by a motor vehicle.

2. The vehicle which struck them was a (wait for it....) WHITE CROWN VICTORIA.

3. No citations were issued (imagine that) even though the SURVIVING witnesses said the vehicle was travelling at a high rate of speed WITH ITS HEADLIGHTS OFF!!!! At 3:40 am.

Does anyone remember story problems from school? Put your thinking cap on for just a second while we say some prayers for the dead.

At 3:40 am in the Washington DC suburbs, an UNMARKED, WHITE CROWN VICTORIA, Travelling at a high rate of speed, with it's headlights turned off, drives into a fog (tire smoke) and strikes a group of 50! pedestrians, Killing 7. And there are no Citations Issued????

WTF?????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[rant] and people are just going to give them a pass on this?[rant]
 
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#7 ·
I could've very well been an unmarked squad, but if it were, why didn't they turn on the berries and cherries? It may have been an off duty officer, who knows.

Anyhoo, I don't feel any remorse for those who have put themselves in danger because these types of stories make the news frequently and still they congregate in the middle of a busy roadway. Even after the complaints of other motor vehicles engaging in the same activity.

BTW, I would like to personally slap the interviewed woman who was fortunate enough to grab her child out of the way. Why in the world was her kid out at that time of night to begin with??? I hope she has DCFS coming after her with child neglect charges. Stupid b!tch.
 
#8 ·
this will sounds strange.....


but i believe the owner of the white vehicle over played Carmagedon game



RIP
 
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#10 ·
Well, i hate not to generalize street racing, but did the streetracers actually kill anyone? seems this happened because some idiots wanted to watch a race and walked out into the street after the cars had left already. yes, i'll agree the racers played a small part, after all, if there wasnt a race the people wouldnt have been there, and they did cause the smoke from burning out. but how many people usually barrel into smoke in the middle of the night with their car? know i dont trust what may be in a smoke cloud. and witnesses are saying he didnt have his headlights on also.
not blaming the racers or the other car that hit the people, pretty much just the people themselves for standing in a highway in a cloud of smoke, at almost 4am...
 
#11 ·
Speed Kills. High Speed Pursuits, that is.

First of all it's foolish to race on the streets. And of course it's illegal, But we also have a leash law in my city. So does that mean that if I stop on my way through the park to watch dude doing frisbee stunts with lassie, that I deserve to get run down by some park ranger racing through the park to apprehend said evil doer?

People should know better, sure, but if this was a police vehicle (and there are few other reasons why there would be no citations issued) then there is a Professional Obligation to know better. If this was a public safety vehicle there is NO EXCUSE to be racing around at night without flashers and siren let alone without headlights. The difference is that we expect a certain amount of foolishness from the general public while the other person is professionally trained and paid with vast amounts of tax dollars to know better.

If it wasn't a police vehicle, who was it? Why weren't they cited? The SDM (black box) will say exactly what that car was doing , and whether it's headlights were on. But if it was an official vehicle you can bet that it will disappear into some dark motorpool scrap heap never to be heard from again. It won't even be interrogated if the public doesn't demand it. This is DC after all.

There is far too much willingness on the part of the vast majority of the public to say that certain people dont' deserve the protection of the law because they are engaged in an activity of questionably legal standing. And yet so little outrage at irresponsible (and deadly) law enforcement negligence. Lame.
 
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#12 ·
I think that you keep thinking the Crown Vic was speeding or involved in the street race. In my opinion I think the people saying that the Crown Vic didn't have his headlights on is a bunch of shit. If anything to solidify why the crowd was mowed down was because of his headlights causing blindness to the driver, just like running your highbeams on a foggy day. The police did the right thing by not citing the driver of the Vic and there is nothing that we know of right now that would put him/her in the wrong.
 
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Cue the rant...[rant]

First- complete agreement with the above post.

Route 210 carries a 45MPH + speed limit. People tend to exxagerate occurences and under stress will often say what they THOUGHT happened.

Standing still, a vehicle at 30 MPH is travelling at a high rate of speed. Stand on a crosswalk and get brushed back to the curb by an idiot if you need proof. Headlights or not, THEY NEVER SHOULD HAVE BEEN THERE! When I go out in the morning on my way to work, I expect that I might see a deer. I NEVER expect that around the next corner on a state highway that there will be 50 people standing in the middle of the road. I don't care if it's foggy or not.

So, I don't put a lot of stock in the witnesses account. ESPECIALLY if they were supporting an illegal activity - with their 13 year old daughter I might add.

As for a citation, the investigation is still pending and the police haven't ruled that out, it just takes time.

However, this NEVER would have taken place if an illegal race wasn't staged.

This goes right back to one of my MANY previous rants that the more often than not, it is the innocent bystander that stumbles into a situation that they should NEVER have to account for as part of their normal driving.

You can say "What was he/she doing there at 3:00 a.m.." Don't know, don't care. They could have been on their way to Dunkin Donuts for the early shift. Doesn't matter. The time of day doesn't factor into the situation at all.

Bottom line is that street racing poses an imminent danger to the participants and the general public.

While the deaths are tragic, it is made even more so because of the fact that it DIDN't HAVE TO HAPPEN. So, I - like the police, hold the participants and the spectators directly responsible for this incident.

Take it to a track. Controlled environment - no lurking crown vics (police or otherwise), no spectators allowed on the racing surface, safety crews on hand to allow for incidents. All of which can be done for $30 per night.

There is not now NOR EVER any justification for illegal speed competitions on public highways. [nono]

Here ends the rant...[V]
 
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#16 ·
i agree rant +solid. but my main question is why the hell so many people gather ed to watch this drag rac. (or the start of one anyways) this kind of stuff attracts attention. besides the whole failute of commom sense to stande in the highway.
stupid people diong something stupid got killed, now its all over the news. it happenevery time there is a casualty or timmy fell in the well becuase he was playing by it and tripped type shit. i think everyone in this situation is to blame for one thing or another. to be fair they should arrest and process the survivorsfo being accomplices to illegal acts snd such.. maybeye they'd learn to not street race.
 
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I haven't heard anything yet about the driver of the Crown Vic, but just because it's a typical cop car doesn't automatically mean the driver was someone in law enforcement. You guys are aware of the fact that these cars are IMMENSELY popular with the gray-haired set, aren't you? Coulda been an old-timer driving, which would explain some other things, like why they went full speed ahead into a cloud of smoke (poor reaction time).
 
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I'm evidently not seeing how the guys racing tie into it. did they force the people to come? stand in the highway? where they even anywhere around when the accident happened? did they somehow force the crown vic to run into the crowd? did a single one of those people HAVE to come? To me, what these people did and what happened where their sole responsibility. common sense needed to prevail. I'm not for street racing, but the passing the buck to others is getting pretty stupid in this country. noone has common sense anymore when their actions can be blamed on someone else.
this simple analogy fits this in a nutshell...
if your shoe comes untied, you notice it and dont tie it, then trip later, can you blame the lace or shoe manufacturer? why not? i mean they produced them, you just didn't have the common sense to retie the shoe.
 
#20 ·
You make a valid point, but I'm not sure that it applies in this situation.

Like yourself, I too am tired of frivolous lawsuits and every little thing being the fault of someone else - to a point.

I know that the McDonald's coffee is hot, and if I spill it, I am not going to sue the franchise because I got burned.

With respect to street racing, its a whole different analogy.

I appreciate that you don't support or condone street racing, but the simple truth of the matter is that as spectators, they were participating, supporting, and encouraging an illegal activity. The cars involved in the race were the source of the interest.

By nature of the fact that an illegal speed competition took place, it removes the aspect of safety. No crowd control or limiting/prohibiting spectators onto the racing surface.

They (participants and spectators) can't account for the variables. This represents a danger to the general public and that in ofitself is a CRIME.

While common sense dictates you shouldn't walk into the road, that is removed when you consider it makes no sense to race on a public highway (nevermind illegal).

The old saying holds true. "If common sense was so common, why don't we see more of it?"
 
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#21 ·
"I appreciate that you don't support or condone street racing, but the simple truth of the matter is that as spectators, they were participating, supporting, and encouraging an illegal activity. The cars involved in the race were the source of the interest."

so, the racers did have nothing to do with actions taken by spectators?

"They (participants and spectators) can't account for the variables. This represents a danger to the general public and that in ofitself is a CRIME."

at no time, even on a track can all variables be accounted for (weather, wildlife, and other conditions) it's back to each person realizing these conditions and taking responsibility for themselves and warning others nearby of them. but not to take responsibility for the actions others take.
Everyday driving throws unknown variables at a person and once again its back to the person to make a choice with the given variables. these people knew it was a highway, it was dark, and there was a possibility of a car coming, but they made the choice to walk out in the road and ignore the variables.


"While common sense dictates you shouldn't walk into the road, that is removed when you consider it makes no sense to race on a public highway (nevermind illegal)."

I'm missing something on this comment. a persons decision to walk into the road isnt their fault because someone was racing? so it should be the racers fault they did this?


not trying to argue. just trying to see where your point of view is coming from.
so if joe and jonny race and a guy jwalks behind them in front of a car and gets hit after they take off they should be charged because maybe the guy stepped out to watch the race?

not condoning street racing, but i just dont see how a persons actions should be anothers responsibility
 
#22 ·
I don't take it as arguing. So, it's all good. [werd]

I prefer to call it a healthy discussion. [thumb]

I am in complete agreement with you in the sense that one person's actions do not necessarily imply responsibility on the part of another.

That said, street racing creates a very unsafe environment that endangers the public. As I said before, by definition, this is a crime. That is the source of culpability.

However, I do see your point.

Using a different example...

A suicidal man steps in front of a bus and is killed. Should the bus driver be cited? In my opinion - No.

The point is that the racers created an unsafe environment and the spectators were willing participants. There is an element of risk associated with spectating. This is further escalated in the sense that there are no controls in place to prevent people from gathering or wandering on the racing surface.

I'm not sure if this conveys my point, but I concede that I am struggling with articulating it.

[scratch]
 
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#27 ·
i never got a cahnce to follow up on this (it was a blip on my local news, and sure enough someone was interviewed here that had no idea of the tuning culture and blamed "us damned kids with our loud stereos and modified cars" as a whole. they need to realize there are responsible fools that dump crap tons of cash into a ride then take it to the track. hell if i remember right the same thing has been happening since the early 1930's. so i'm sure everyone has had a hotted up something in their life (even if it was a quisinart that uncle bob "rebuilt".) and most of the people who compalin are the same dudes you see wandring around classic car shows trying to find out what the hell went wrong in their life to lose the car that looked like this one right in front of them. and then getting depressed, then mad when he has to get in his wifes minivan t take everyone home....
 
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#28 ·
man just saw this post....my dad works as a P.G. county cop down in that area (Oxon Hill district)....the driver of the crown vic wasnt a police officer at all, and he cannot be charged with any crimes even though he was (as people state) speeding, because 1) the people struck were in the middle of a highway in no crosswalk, so it is their fault that they got hit, and unfortunately killed...now that's not saying that the families wont try and sue the driver or try and have charges against him, but legally he cannot be charged.....now what gets me is that, all the other people at that street race fled the scene after it happened and left the victims there, they can be charged criminally for not rendering aid.........oh an the driver of the crown vic was not part of the street racing, PGPD thinks that he was fleeing from charles county p.d., which doesnt help either.........but that should teach everyone a lesson, dont get involved in street racing, whether spectating or actually racing, you can be charged by the police either way
 
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#30 ·
it all stems back to blame shifting... no one wants to be held accountable for there OWN actions.. if i stand on a rail road track long enough im bound to get hit by the train,unless i get my ass off the track,engineers fault? not hardly. i jump in a cage to fight a bear,,he kills me.bears fault?.bears owners fault? no... standing in the middle of a road at night,blame no one but yourself if you get hit..innocent bystanders,?,no they werent.they were willing and participating spectators!,big difference. traggic yes. but lets call it for what it was.
 
#33 ·
100% agree with ya on that.......spectating or participating in a street race is an illegal event and you can get charged....plus standing in the middle of a highway is just the dumbest thing you could do......as they say, play with fire you're gonna get burnt
 
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#34 ·
Focus Fanatics proves yet again that

There is no horse too dead to flog! [boxface]
 
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#32 ·
alright i got a little more info....he wasnt fleeing from charles county, but he did have a suspended license, which he probably will get charged for....he did have his headlights on, but because the people were standing in a big cloud of smoke generated by the cars, he did not see the people and the people did not see him....and most likely the people were dressed in all black or all dark clothing....the driver was also wearing his seatbelt, and the speed limit is 55 on indian head highway, so to a person that was standing on the road it would seem he was speeding (which im not saying he wasnt)....but as far as having a suspended license the driver was following the laws of the road (exept maybe the speed limit, but i dont know about that).....but that's as much info as i have right now
 
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