Thanks Bruce - like we need another DCT thread....

 

To me it is worth it, plus I have a 15 so no issues . I live in Miami where traffic is INEVITABLE and for the most part, horrendous. All my college friends who have owned manuals since they could drive at 16 are always complaining on how annoying it is in the city and that their next car will be an auto. Yeah sure I would take a manual if I lived outside city limits but not in the city. It gets tiring and annoying after a while

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Unfortunately that's the scenario where the DCT types are at their worst, not good for crawling.

Hang back a little and roll along in 1st and a manual isn't as large of a PITA and the DCT types get less abuse that can cause overheat/issues.

 

I work in Vancouver, BC Canada... one of the most traffic congested cities in North America according to some lists I've seen...much bumper to bumper crawling traffic...never had any dct issues, no bucking or shuddering, no overheating warnings in the summer crawling in traffic...I think you have to know how to drive the dct, that is the key and then a few small upgrades like RMM and snorkel delete

 

This ^ explained exactly what I was thinking.

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I took the smart odds of less problems and got the 5 speed but if I had a long commute or something I'd would shop another brand with a solid traditional 6 spd automatic and not a vehicle with underbaked-rushed to the market subpar transmission. Even with a warranty I'd hate all the trips to a dealer.

I'm fortunate,while we bought the car for economy,getting the 5 speed makes it fun to drive and is decently engaging for a simple manual in a $20k vehicle.

And my regular mechanic can do clutch changes,no need for Ford to touch it.

 

Try driving a older mechanical clutch vs a hydraulic clutch, let alone a smooth flexible engine vs a cammed up carb engine, I dealt w/ a 4-spd toploader in a '82 Capri rs w/ 331 thru the 405 mess for yrs till I started working a little pass seatac, its worse now on the way home down 518 after 3pm. I just hang back some, so what if a few ppl jump in front of me, it all evens out, you just don't see it. I find the motor to be so flexible & its a 4 cylinder too. Just think if it was a v/8 in a Challenger, Camaro or Mustang!!!

 

MT as much as I can. That said, I don't have to put up with bumper to bumper traffic.

I just updated from a 2003 Focus SVT to a 2013 Focus SE. Two different handling cars but I'm very pleased that Ford offers a manual transmission in a normally aspirated engine that has decent horsepower.

I will fight having an automatic transmission in my daily driver as long as I can find a MT car that is acceptable to me.

 

I prefer manuals, but I admit to not having the patience to teach my wife how to drive one.

 

That's when you drop it & have someone else show her,,,,,I taught a couple of women back in '13 how to drive a stick car, yea a silky smooth e90 six cylinder helps,,,,,,,,,,,,

 

So far I havent had any problems with my 2016 DCT and I have literally beat the hell out of it, plenty of paddle & sport up/downshifts at wot, etc. I've put 5600 miles on it in 2.5 extremely hot & humid months at ~50% highway / 30% city / 20% back roads. In stop & go rush hour traffic / construction I just put it in sport mode and leave myself space to let it coast. I'm very happy with it....

 

Most haven't had problems early on but once you're hitting 20-30,000 miles and see if you don't have issues.

The DCT in the Focus is great in theory but the execution has left a bit to be desired and is still behind the old school 5 speed's acceleration numbers.

 

I only want a manual in my weekend car. Other than that, m-f I'm a zombie... Put it in drive and go to my jobsite. Plus the wife cant drive stick so when we travel and take my car she can drive it. We leave her car unless it snows bad. Love that turbo legacy gt!

 

Lazy, put it in drive and go. hah

 

MT all the way....

MT in traffic.... no problemo

[grinking]

 

Never driven an Auto [emoji15]


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Living in Thailand and Ford don't offer the manual so obviously I bought the DCT. Bangkok traffic is not fun. If you leave any gap then a bunch of motorbikes will fill the space like a shot. Also irate drivers will honk their horns.

At first I didn't like the DCT and throttle response. I'd often ask the car to just do what I ask (coming from manual Audis in the UK).

Anyway, after having a new TCM it's fine. I crawl in traffic and do all the things people say I shouldn't and it's not been a problem.

Having said that, if a manual was available I would switch to one .... as mentioned, I too feel more in control with a manual.

 

I think I got the best combination of the 2015 999cc and the six speed (although I find myself skipping 5). I had to leap across the state line from Iowa to Wisconsin to get it since no dealer in Iowa would get me one. My first car that was not a VW in 45 years of being a car buyer. I've never had an auto. If I get another car I assume it will be electric so I wasn't going to change now.

It's a great shift mechanism, the clutch is excellent. Equal to any VW I've driven at a much better price. The interior isn't quite VW but liveable. 6 years later and not quite at 50k (I bike commute, the college town I live in is small-70,000 people). If it does not rust, I'll keep it six more.