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Looks like another case of being dumb, and bad drivers being on the road. They shouldn't have been going that fast with other cars around, and the old man probably shouldn't have been there at all.
 
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Yeah, it's not so much the though of me putting myself in a ditch that stops me from street racing, it's the fact that there are a lot of bad drivers out there. Drunks, grandmas going 35 in a 55, cell-phone yakking housewives in Escalades, etc. And how many people don't look behind them, don't signal, and pull out onto the road with barely a glance at traffic!?! It's hard enough to stay safe with these people at (not too far above) legal speeds, much less at 100+mph and racing to boot. Just competing with somebody will make you do things you would have never done otherwise, push harder and take chances.

It's just stupid!
 
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this isnt the first time i have heard of something like this. i am agreement with others that they were going to fast but another part of the problem is that there are other people on the road and they may not be the best of drivers.

When it comes down to it driving down the road can be very dangerious then when you add excess speed to it you are increaseing the probability of a problem
 
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And the one dude is trying to say that he was drunk, and it was just the other guy speeding? Nothing better than doing 100+ through traffic.[boxface] [chair]
 
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No matter how exciting such races 'could' be - anyone weaving in and out of traffic like that, at any speed, is idiotic. All the more so when going at speeds like that. It irks me off to no end to see people weaving in & out like that - endangering everyone around them. It's not fair to anyone. You wanna be an indy car driver - then go do it, but don't drag the rest of the highway into your fantasy. I've accidently cut off a few people over the years because before I made my lane change, I LOOKED at all the traffic around me - but I couldn't see the guy going 30-40mph faster than everyone else who happened to be behind some other car when I looked. It's all a matter of timing - bad timing = death. I couldn't agree with you more, CrazyMatt.
 
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Goat Roper said:
Good example of why FF doesn't support nor encourage street racing. Weaving in and out of traffic, speeds in excess of 100mph, sounds just like what I try and delete from these boards.
^^^^ Now that's why I frequent this more than [FJ] (well, I don't mean to be biased, but I haven't gotten used to traversing between the two forums).

About those teens... Wow. What dorks. And that's coming from a teen (I'm 19).
 
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Poney said:
^^ i agree, racing on crowded streets is very dangerous. Luckly for me, texas is full of deserted back "oil field" roads. Not to mention, the roads are flat, so you can see about 5 miles down the road.
lol i was going to say the same thing until i noticed the article is from San Antonio!!!! LOL
 
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As much as i think what they did is completely idiotic...I can't help but feel sorry for those kids. They're pretty much screwed for a good part of their lives. Not to mention how they must feel after killing an elderly man from their moment of idiocy. But we all have to pay for our actions...It just sucks when you only realize how stupid it was to do something after the fact that you did it.

Oh, and before i forget...i doubt their defense lawyer is gonna get far with the "the old man was drunk and driving too slow" comment. But with the charges being put on the kids...the lawyers have to do everything they could to lessen the charges against them...as futile it may be.
 
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Reality Check Time - both kids will be acquitted.

Drunk = how drunk? Obliterated? Good riddance. 0.19 or something small above the legal limit, that's only drunk in news articles trying to promote drama. Either way shitty deal for a death. Going too slow? How slow is too slow? 15 in a 35? 35 in a 70? Any way around it, fast drivers make accidents more lethal, slow drivers cause accidents. Kids street racing in excess of 100? Prove it, someone show the radar gun that had those kids going 100. They'll probably both get a short jail sentence and community service for being idiot *******s on the road.

We had a similar case in Michigan not too long ago, except it wasn't street racing it was a 'at approximate 2am a drunk driver (over twice the legal limit with a history of DUI) traveling at speeds in excess of 100, strikes a squad car on the freeway killing the officer and putting his prisoner in critical condition. the driver was also admitted in critical condition'

That's how the news presented it anyways. Reality? Fire fighting academy graduate in standard unmodded ATX Focus ZX3 goes out celebrating his graduation with some other firefighters. They have a few drinks, his BAC at the time of the ambulence arrival on scene is .16. Michigan legal limit is .08. For those of you who don't know how BAC relates to drinks, 2 beers and you're over the legal limit. .16 is 3-4 beers earlier in the night and coming down.

In excess of 100mph? Not a single concious witness. Only those involved in the accident. Why was it claimed? Well because people are idiots, and figured how else could a Focus hit a squad car on a 70mph freeway hard enough to kill 1 and critically injure 2 more.

Here's how. On review of the dashboard camera in the car, captain dipshit of the sooper troopers pig department pulls over a drunk driver on the southbound lane of a freeway. Arrests the man, and get's ready to head back to the station and call it a night. Since Piggy McDeservedtodie is in a hurry he chooses to make 3 of the most bone headed decisions of his life, ironically ending it.
1) He doesn't turn on his headlights even though its 2am on a cloudy michigan night.
2) He doesn't turn on his emergency flashers, despite the fact that he's about to do #3
3) He goes from the right shoulder on the southbound side of the freeway (there are 4 lanes traveling in either direction with a 30 foot wide median at this location, I take it to work every day) and cuts across ALL 4 lanes of SB traffic, the median, and the first 2 lanes of NB traffic, at which point he's hit by the focus.
 
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aftermath: driver's charged with 2nd degree murder along with a plethora of drunk driving offenses. and that history of drunk driving reported? he got an MIP as a passenger in a car when he was 17.

few months of trials go buy, judge throws out all murder/manslaughter charges and rules in favor of the defense. he's given strict drunk driving punishment and serves 89 days in prison plus 2000 hours of community service.
 
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2004SVTAutoXer said:
In excess of 100mph? Not a single concious witness. Only those involved in the accident. Why was it claimed? Well because people are idiots, and figured how else could a Focus hit a squad car on a 70mph freeway hard enough to kill 1 and critically injure 2 more.

Actually, if there was skidding involved or other factors, they have measures of determining the approximate speed.
 
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I served time in a work furlough program with a kid who was racing, and the other racer crashed the car and died. The kid I served time with had a 8 month sentence.

That's not enough time for a manslaughter charge.... This kid was a doofus. He annoyed inmates, and they put their pubes on him while he was sleeping...

haha, I hope these kids get the same treatment.
 
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see this is why like...if i am at a light, and a little honda or something pulls up next and wants to race, if its clear upahead, I will play for just a little but i REFUSE to EVER go over the speed limit. Like if the speed limit is 45, I will go until my spedo hits 50. then no matter if i am winning or not i will back off, and even lately, i just....dont WANT to do that on public streets, many a times I have been laughed at for not racing and just going leasurly while the other car guns it, then slows down up ahead and laughs and points at me. It dont bother me, let the other person do something stupid and get someone hurt or even killed. I have been in 6 accidents in my life and I really dont ever want to get in another one. Keep the high speed racing and stuff to the track.
 
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Gachi said:
Actually, if there was skidding involved or other factors, they have measures of determining the approximate speed.
the only measure is the cars computer which needs to be analyzed by ford engineers. it will tell the speed and driving conditions at time of impact as well as prior. the reports were citing the 100+mph figure less than 5 hours after the crash happened when I was getting ready to go to work the next morning. after the engineers got their hands on it they said the speed was 77mph and the driver just started to hit hte brakes between 50-60 feet prior to impact but did not skid.
 
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MISVTfocus said:
When was that??
may 2004. the guy in the focus was a good friend of mine, and had just dropped off another of our buddies that graduated from the fire academy as well before the crash happened. the sentencing just happened a few weeks ago but they already deleted the article

'Article Not Available
The article that you are trying to view is no longer available through this Web site. The content is copyrighted by the Associated Press, which requires ClickOnDetroit.com to delete its stories two weeks after they are originally posted.'

edit: WJR still has the article posted -
http://www.wjr.net/Article.asp?PT=Local+News&id=144321
 
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indoubt said:
see this is why like...if i am at a light, and a little honda or something pulls up next and wants to race, if its clear upahead, I will play for just a little but i REFUSE to EVER go over the speed limit. Like if the speed limit is 45, I will go until my spedo hits 50. then no matter if i am winning or not i will back off, and even lately, i just....dont WANT to do that on public streets, many a times I have been laughed at for not racing and just going leasurly while the other car guns it, then slows down up ahead and laughs and points at me. It dont bother me, let the other person do something stupid and get someone hurt or even killed. I have been in 6 accidents in my life and I really dont ever want to get in another one. Keep the high speed racing and stuff to the track.
that's because you, like most people, have a brain. unfortunately some don't.