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MK1 Bump Steer

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#1 · (Edited)
Hey folks,

I have had severe bump steer as long as I can remember. Ive read up on bump steer and am pretty sure this is what is happening.

I know that my front sway bar bushings are completely shot but cant imagine it would be causing the wheel to jerk so hard. I understand lowering/lifting a car is a common cause. I installed the SVT kit, control arms, tie rods/end, and sway bar links really soon after I got the car though, so not sure if it was present before that or if it was only present afterwards.

I see other cars and the Mk3 Focus have bump steer correction kits which are essentially adjustable outer tie rod ends, but there are none for the Mk1. All I can find are adjustable sway bar end links which dont seem neccessary unless the sway bar or struts are replaced with ones thst have different mount points, but in any case I wouldnt think that would directly affect the bump steer issue. Ive had the car aligned a few times - once after the front end work, once after the rear end work, and once after installing my SVT wheels and new tires. It has been over a year since my last one but the problem has always been present so its hard to believe thats all it is. Im kind of at a loss for how to fix this. I dont want to let other people drive the car the way it jerks now.

How are other Mk1 folks addressing bump steer? Am I missing something obvious?
 
#2 ·
Can you tell us how much lower you went on the suspension, it doesn't sound like you are really dealing with a bump steer issue but something else not found yet. When you say the wheel is jerked out, under what circumstances, power on, decel, turns left right both, under braking? Have you checked the steering rack mounting bolts, it's something some forget but an easy fix for something that can cause a tremendous amount of why it drives differently. More info please
 
#3 ·
The wheel jerks when I hit bumps or dips in the road one one side of the car but not the other. Whether it jerks toward or away from that side depends on it if was a bump or a dip. Immediately after the bump/dip the wheel snaps back to center. The steering doesnt feel loose or sloppy though, very precise handling and great feeling of control as long as the road is perfect (a rare find in MI). To answer the questiob about the drop, the only thing lowering the car is the SVT kit which says 1 to 1.5 inches, though Id say its more like a 2 inch drop.

Under acceleration I get pulls to one side or the other if the wheel isnt straight or if the road isnt level or smooth. Otherwise it keeps true. I assume the above is just tq steer due to it being fwd with an open diff. This effect is significant but less dramatic than the bump steer effect.

Least prominent of all three would be brake steer. No pattern I can identify as to when it pulls and when it doesnt, or why it pulls one way vs another. My rear brakes are drums and are pretty rusty. Ive replaced the drums bearing shoes and hardware twice in 3 years and they just rust out so fast. Ive ignored it for a while since i have the MSS rear disc brake kit waiting to go on this summer, but Id always assumed the poor rear brakes were the cause of the sporadic brake steer issues.

All that being said, its certainly possible that what I percieve as three distinct issues all actually share a common cause, or at least a common contributor.
 
#4 ·
Do you have access to a bump steer gage? Although my suspension is heavily modified (added MKIII knuckles), I had to raise the rack 7/8 inch to zero out the bump steer. Yours won't be the same, but using a bump steer gage to find out what the suspension is doing under travel is the surest way to see what is happening.

Pappy

 
#5 ·
I had no idea such a thing existed, but that sounds really promising! Would any old alignment shop have one of these? Only performance/tuning shops?
 
#6 · (Edited)
Possibly a stabar issue since it is occurring under single-wheel road events, you said the stabar bushings are shot, and that the steering snaps back afterwards. Maybe some undesirable movement of the bar is exerting additional steering moment on the strut. The link geometry orientation probably isn't ideal under lowering, exacerbating the issue.
 
#7 ·
Hmm, could be. I may end up fast tracking my upcoming project which includes replacing both subframes as well as some odds and ends suspension items. I could replace the front bar bushings and steering rack bushings while im at it and see if that helps before taking it in for a bump steer assessment.
 
#8 ·
Sway bar bushings should have no effect on actual bump steer, but loose/bad rack bushings can. If either end of the rack is moving up or down under load, that changes the height of the inboard tie rod pick up point which changes the bump steer for that wheel. Bump steer is a function of the heights of the inner and outer tie rod pick up points and the length of the tie rods. If the steering is adjusted where the tie rods are not equal length, then that will also make the bump steer different for each of the drive wheels.

Pappy
 
#9 ·
Thanks for that input. I would probably be able to get a better idea of what's going on under there if I could get the car in the air (pull/push on the steering rack, etc). Between the SVT kit and the front SAP kit I can no longer drive my car onto my ramps or get the a floor jack to the torque mount on the front subframe to jack it up. Didn't think about that until it was too late, now I will need lowpro ramps and a lowpro jack (not cheap). Might just rent a bay for now to get this taken care of.
 
#10 ·
Before u go spending money on new ramps and jacks, a couple of pieces of 2x4 staggered and nailed together, build it three pieces high, place one in front of each front wheel, drive up the jack should be more than lower enough, lift up, put jack stands under and check out what's going one. Simple with some wood, hammer and nails she is up in the air.
 
#11 ·
All fixed. It was a front lca bushing that was completelt destroyed. The steering rack and its bushings were tip top. So much morr enjoyable to drive now!! Check out my album in my singature for pics if the job, also have info on it in my build thread.
 
#13 ·
...and great that you came back and updated us with the solution! Thanks
 
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#14 ·
I was surprised, I had more or less ruled out control arm or sway bar link or tie rod issues because I replaced all that stuff two years ago. The rear LCA bushings were also destroyed, annoying because I replaced those 2 yeara ago as well. Maybe a design or a geometry problem. Or a michigan pothole problem.