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Zetec TTY Bolts

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#1 ·
I'm making my way through an engine rebuild and I just got everything back from the machine shop. Looking through my Chilton manual, it shows the connecting rod bearing caps and main bearing caps have to be tightened an additional amount similar to the head bolts. Should I replace these bolts like I did with the head bolts or would these ones be ok to reuse? Stock connecting rods are being reused and no crazy mods are being done.

Thanks.

Edit: 2002 ZX3 2.0L Zetec Vin 3
 
#2 ·
Im not the most experienced engine builder and I dont know if the stock bolts are TTY. But I do know that the connecting rod fasteners are the most stressed fasteners in an engine. I think a set of new bolts may be worth it. Get other opinions.

Good luck
Paul
 
#3 ·
X2. The rod bolts are the most abused parts in any motor and TTY bolts are meant to be used one time only as the term TTY means 'torque to yield'. When you go to yield on a bolt you are taking it past the normal stretching which stops just before yield, which is permanent stretching that deforms the bolt by making it longer. In short, you have overtightened the bolt to be trying to pull it in half. Do it twice and you are begging for failure.

Don't ask me why the engineers do that. They claim the act makes the parts more reliable in use but I think it's bullsh-t to force you to buy more parts as engines never needed to do it before.

Ford stated that the bolts could be used twice when they first began to use them but either they began to get failures themselves in repairs or the above reason I gave convinced them to quit saying you could reuse them in the service manuals.

TTY is why you cannot use a normal 'torque to' number, you get a falloff in torque when a bolt begins to twist in two, the number quits going up and you don't know when to stop then. And every bolt is slightly different, why they began to use angles as the last tighten spec instead.

Your rod bolts have already been tightened twice, they have to do it once when machining the big end and then the second time when the engine is assembled. Correct procedure is to change all bolts there.

Yeah, I know it sucks, I come from the '60s where we didn't junk parts like that, they still had some value. Now the OEMs make you cycle through that stuff to get more money out of you at repair time.
 
#4 ·
Well, I appreciate the help. I talked to the local Ford dealer and they said the bolts were no longer available. I know ARP is highly recommended by everyone in the forums. It took me a while to find them, but I see they make studs for the main journals and bolts for the con rods.

With ARP studs and bolts, should I ignore the torque and degree values in my manual and use the values given by ARP?