If you have a full weekend to to this and have time scheduled to get it tuned then it is possible to. Tuning will take longer than installing usually. It took me only 5 hours to get everything installed for my sc. Unfortunately for me, I was working 7 days a week and couldn't make time to work with Tom for remote tuning. It ended up taking me several months to finish it.

 

stopping at a certain power level is the hardest part.

 

^^ This and money.

remote tuning is easy.

 

please elaborate.

 

money... if you dont have it you cant do much to your car

stopping... its addictive. i made 220whp on stock motor, built motor made 353whp, pulled that and turbo v8 should make 700+.... after that idk lol

 

Well ill assume you mean the tuning since money is self explainatory.

I paid tom to remote tune my car. Logged the values he wanted, he changed stuff till he was happy. I never had any problems with the tune.

Took me a couple of weeks to tune but that was b/c it was the middle of winter and it kept snowing and that prevents a good run to log(slipping on roads). Wasnt really all that much work on my part, just patience.

 

x2 on the patience. Lots of it.

I wouldn't suggest that you start this on Friday and expect to drive it on Monday. Tom has lots of customers so he might not have time to get it finished for you or you might break a bolt or discover a vacuum leak and set you back. Just plan on having a second vehicle or someone else to drive you for awhile.

 

I also wouldnt start it on a Fri and expect to be at work with it Monday , I dont tune on Sun. unless its an emergency and in a case likt this it wouldnt be , sorry

I takes about 1 to 2 Hrs depending on your logging skills and speed to send and get files to have the car driveable and thats only if there is no issues with Vac leaks , MAF location and so on

Tom

 

TOM i like it i as well try to never work on sunday. i mean come on its the sabbath.

 

technically, saturday is the sabbath, lol, but i'd agree, its cost. make sure you have a reasonable budget beforehand!

 

off topic but saturday was never the sabbath.

god created world in 6 days rested on seventh = sabbath. thats where it comes from

 

well the catholics changed that and i catholic so ya we just weird.

 

so for data logging you need a laptop basically? has anyone done remote tuning through FSwerks?

 

Yes you need a laptop (well it helps alot) unless you have a way to take your desktop with you when you do your WOT run. I remote tuned from Randy and it was done in two runs.

i would stay away from FSwerks. they charge you for updates and trust me u will need them. TOM is the way to go for tuning. he cares about you and not so much the money. he will help you through phone aim and here. you need your flasher and a laptob i believe

Thant is were you are wrong, I have gotten nothing but free updates from Randy when I made a change to my car. He helps out his boosted customers alot. Yes Tom does to and the people that have used him stand behind him. Same with us FsWerks customers we stand behind Randy. And as Smithboy said "Lets not turn this in to another Tom V. FsWerks thread.

Josh
Moderator.

 

i would stay away from FSwerks. they charge you for updates and trust me u will need them. TOM is the way to go for tuning. he cares about you and not so much the money. he will help you through phone aim and here. you need your flasher and a laptob i believe

 

if I order it from Fswerks then I don't really want to waste the service they provide.

 

Tom has a great customer service. whenever I have a question or a problem, I go straight to my tuner (him) and he's yet to let me down or steer me in the wrong direction.

You do need alot of patients... Ive spent well over a year putting together my build and tuning. Yes I could have done it faster but I work full time and choose to take my time on my hobby.

If you can get a second car as a DD that would be best when trying to turbo your focus.

 

True. If you get a brand new kit from FSWerks, their tuning is included. It is a slight waste of money to pay for tuning twice. If you get F2's kit, Tom does that tuning.

 

i beleive if u get their basic tuner kit you dont get tuning

 

I will say I don't know who has tuned more d-tecs. But I do know that Tom does require the J&S for the SVT, but I don't know about the others. But do keep the arguments in PM, lets respect the OP and help him out.

Josh
Moderator.

 

Alright Guys lets get some fact straight here...

Tom and Randy are both good tuners, to each his own on who you go with.

FSWERKS does provide included Tuning support with their kits, here is an excerpt from their website regarding the kit:

FSWERKS 's new Turbocharger kit for the 2.0 and 2.3 litre Duratec Focus delivers serious horsepower and torque, increasing your car's output by at least 70% on the 2.0 and at least 75% on the 2.3 liter. Refined driveability and a factory appearance make this kit the perfect choice for Focus enthusiasts everywhere. Included in the kit price is FREE dyno tuning support. WIth several years of Focus ECU tuning experience, we are able to efficiently help local AND remote customers get SAFE and RELIABLE power from the FSWERKS turbo kits. Comes with a Lifetime warranty** on the ITG Maxogen air filter, SCT flasher and a 1 year warranty** on all other parts.

Now I'll put my own personal opinion in on things. PERSONALLY I'd go with who has the Most Experience Building, Producing, and Tuning Turbo Kits for the Duratec Engine, nothing against you Tom but FSWERKS has you beat on production of the Duratec Turbo Kits but we all know that. Personally I wouldn't go with any other kit other than FSWERKS's at the moment as they have the most duratec ones out there, the most experience with their own kit, and have had plenty of satisfied customers running their kit. Going FI requires $$$, plain and simple, you can't just go buy an off the shelf kit from ebay or have one custom built and expect to install and be tuned over the weekend. The only way you'd be able to get near that is with FSWERKS, plain and simple. I've heard of some of their kits being able to be installed in 8 Hours then all you have to worry about is tuning but that's included you'd just have to set up a time with Randy.

That's all, back to lurking in the shadows....

 

My mistake i read on there website and talked to randy about tuning and he personally told me it would be 35 for ever tune after his base.

 

Maybe because you added in another variable?

From their site on their tuner page:

Other parameters may also be modified to suit your needs. Please call for other custom settings if you don't see what you are looking for here.

 

But Ken , If he adds in another variable and gets charged extra for it thats EXACTLY what was stated that started all this

Tom

 

Something isnt right then , I have people coming to me getting tunes with them saying I am cheaper because I give free tuning and fs wouldnt , thats what I am going off of

So maybe some one can clear this up , at what point does fs charge and for what

Tom

Tom, you and I both know that they probably can't respond in here.

To the OP your best bet is to call FSWERKS and talk to Randy and figure out the exact pricing. In my opinion $35 extra to FSWERKS is better than $550 Extra if you were to have Tom tune their kit as FS's tuning is already included. That's simple Mathematics. [dunno]

 

Or he's your friend and you weren't supposed to give away that info [paranoid]

 

Something isnt right then , I have people coming to me getting tunes with them saying I am cheaper because I give free tuning and fs wouldnt , thats what I am going off of

So maybe some one can clear this up , at what point does fs charge and for what

Tom

 

I see what you guys are getting at, but here is my deal:

I plan to get the fswerks stage 1 with everything included. It is not worth it to pay additional $$$ for an outside tuner to perform the tuning JUST so I can then receive free updates in the future.

I don't want to get into who charges what for outside tuning, but it's certainly going to be a few hundred dollars. That is equivalent to many $35 FSwerks tune upgrades (assuming they are charging $35 each after the free first).

Not really planning on doing too much after the turbo kit, maybe stage 2 sometime in the future.

Anyways, let's hear what else you guys have to say about going turbo. I know this is really helping myself and a lot of others who are hesitant to jump into the whole thing!

 

If you can start installing the kit on a Friday after work, you should be able to put the whole thing on if you're ok with staying up until midnight. If not, put most of it on and finish Saturday morning.

This leaves several hours on Saturday to do your first couple of datalogs. Since Sunday isn't really an option for tuning, you definitely need to get at least a couple datalogs in so that the car is driveable. Even if you can't run full throttle, it's very possible to get it to where you can drive to work. When I had my first turbo, Tom got it to where I could hobble to work in just a day. I'm sure FSWerks could do the same thing for you. Their tune is also more dialed in since it's specifically for their kit. My tune was more difficult because it's a custom setup.

 

Here's the deal.

When you buy a FSWERKS complete turbo kit, you get free tuning with free upgrades. Even if you build your engine, go high boost (20+psi), the tuning is still free. The limit of that free tuning is if you go with a different turbo manifold or go with a turbo FSWerks does not offer, that's about it.

I hate to break it to you Tom but you do not have the cheapest tuning around. Perhaps you should use the search button once in a while.

 

I hate to break it to you Tom but you do not have the cheapest tuning around. Perhaps you should use the search button once in a while.

With my tuning you can change turbos , build engine , go back to NA and get a tune then back to totaly Diff turbo kit its all the same FREE , go from PW/SC to a turbo its FREE , go from Roush to SPA its FREE and many here have done just that and it was FREE , Priceless

I dont go for cost , I go for quality , Let fs have the CHEAP , why Focus-Power has the best , works for me

I agree 100% Ken if where he buys the Turbo it comes with tuning it would be silly to do anything else

Tom

 

cmon man let that stuff go. this thread was almost recovering....

Could someone explain the differences between FS offered turbos? the
Garrett GT28R, GT28RS, and GT2871R. Are they just different sizes for more/less boost earlier/later?