[Chris_HT]

No marketing hype

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Dude, you have 16 (at this moment) posts on this forum, and 14 of them are about how great is Amsoil.... no "Hi, my name is ....., and here are photos of my ride, so at least you know who are you dealing with", no, just straight away "Amsoil is ze best!"

This does stink like some ugly marketing pig.


...so, waiting for intro with some nice pics of your rides.

 

[KeithLM]

Mark my words, in the following year there will be many informative posts by me with solid evidence of what you can and can't do with engine lubricants in the new direct injected 2.0 Focus engine. Expect detailed threads from install articles and lab reports to back up claims and findings.

Royal Purple and Mobil 1 Extended Performance are really the only two that are easy to find. Since Mobil 1 refuses to post the specs for NOACK Volatility on all spec sheets, we are questioning if even EP has VISOM hydrocracked petroleum in it.

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Dude, you have 16 (at this moment) posts on this forum, and 14 of them are about how great is Amsoil.... no "Hi, my name is ....., and here are photos of my ride, so at least you know who are you dealing with", no, just straight away "Amsoil is ze best!"

This does stink like some ugly marketing pig.


...so, waiting for intro with some nice pics of your rides.

Yeah, I think you are right. He did say "we" in that quote.

Perhaps Amsoil is like Amway. This guy's posts are very cult-like with regards to this product. Kind of creepy.

 

[UnleashedBeast]

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Dude, you have 16 (at this moment) posts on this forum, and 14 of them are about how great is Amsoil.... no "Hi, my name is ....., and here are photos of my ride, so at least you know who are you dealing with", no, just straight away "Amsoil is ze best!"

This does stink like some ugly marketing pig.


...so, waiting for intro with some nice pics of your rides.

Hello,

My name is Troy. Which car would you like to see? My new 2012 Focus Ti?

or the 700 rwhp GT500 I just sold because I was tired of the poor fuel economy and desire to have more power?

Your post doesn't stun or shock me, some members of the GT500 crowd acted the same way when I shared my experiences with them about Amsoil. Odd, after two years of proof, most of them are now using it. [hihi]

Yeah, I think you are right. He did say "we" in that quote.

I/WE as people I chat with on oil forums and such. Others that I talk to on the inside of big oil companies who disclose information to me that may get them in trouble.

Look up "UnleashedBeast" on the SVT Performance forums. I'm a trusted member there with so many PM's in one day for oil advice. I was even nominated by a moderator there to be the new mod in the oil section. *I'm winning that poll by the way*

 

[Chris_HT]

Your post doesn't stun or shock me,

..and it wasn't meant to do any of that, it was just to remind you that if you join a community like FF, do it as a person, not an advertisement poster.


Nice GT 500 tho

 

[UnleashedBeast]

..and it wasn't meant to do any of that, it was just to remind you that if you join a community like FF, do it as a person, not an advertisement poster.

Give me time, you will see that I am not biased on a particular lubricant brand, but formulations that actually deliver. That's why I recommend Mobil 1 Extended Performance to guys buying off the shelf.

I will be the "go to" guy for lubrication advice.

Nice to meet you sir, my apologizes for acting like I have 5,000+ posts already. [thumb]

 

[Focus YBTC]

Is Amsoil affilated with...

Your post doesn't stun or shock me, some members of the GT500 crowd acted the same way when I shared my experiences with them about Amsoil. Odd, after two years of proof, most of them are now using it. [hihi]

Is Amsoil affiliated with Amway in any way? [?] [hihi]

 

[Chris_HT]

good advice always welcome, i love my 'blue b1tch' SVT and I intend to keep it in good shape for as long as petrol cars are permitted on the roads :]

 

[UnleashedBeast]

Nice GT 500 tho

Thanks, but I won't miss it really. The car took ALL of my spare money. The desire to go faster could never be pacified. 14 mpg in town @ $4.00 per gallon was taxing my budget.

Is Amsoil affiliated with Amway in any way? [?] [hihi]

That get's funnier every time I hear it. [rofl]

No, they are not.

Amsoil was once spelled, "Amzoil" after the owner's name of Al Amatuzio.

 

[RonMaiden]

Any evidence around that "full" synthetic is better in real world road car use? Last time I checked into this there wasn't. Just ye olde marketing hype.

In NA cars that aren't driven hard then regular oil is fine as long as it's changed regularly but in a turbo car I wouldn't run anything but synthetic since turbos run way hotter (900+F) than anything on a NA motor and need to be cooled down after driving and synthetic resists "coking" on the turbo bearing much better than dino stuff. Synthetic also pours and flows much better at temps under 0F which is a big deal when starting your vehicle in freezing temps. Synthetic also has better heat stabilization and resistance to burning and simply gives a hard driven engine extra protection and a bit bigger margin for error of something goes wrong.

It's not marketing hype for those who will really benefit from it. With my 4Runner I just use it mostly for length between changes.

 

[TboneZX3]

As much as I always say I'm going to keep a car forever, I usually get bored with it or it needs some kind of major work at about the 150,000 mile mark. My last car was a 2005 Toyota Corolla with 165,000 miles on it. I used Toyota filters and M1 in it from day 1. When I changed the oil at 10,000 intervals it hadn't used a drop and looked only slightly darker than new.

I'm the same, and this is the reason I use cheap conventional oils. The top end of my '01 Focus at 135K miles is pretty, and I've put nothing but Castrol GTX in it. That car is for sale, and I'm not sure how I could have justified more expensive oils in the end.

 

[Bimmer-Bob]

This probably won't mean much to those who want to use super-premium oils in their Foci (not saying there's anything wrong with that, but it's not me), but the regular old Motorcraft synth blend that the owner's manual recommends is pretty highly regarded over at the "Bob Is The Oil Guy" forums.

I personally have never once had a car run into issues with running OEM oil changed at least as often as the manual recommends. YMMV.

 

[Pretherius]

I have 3 free-ish changes coming from my dealer which I intend to get at 5k, 10k, and 15k.

I don't see the point in skimping on oil if you do your own changes. The difference between the recommended MotorCraft oil and Wal Mart's store brand conventional is less than 5 bucks a jug.

After that my intention is to run Mobil 1 for 10K OCI's -if- I can get away without changing the filter. If I'm taking that stupid cover off to change the filter then I will just chainge the oil when I have it apart.

 

[Ti2012]

Is Amsoil affiliated with Amway in any way? [?] [hihi]

lol, I am a Amsoil dealer, and I always refer to them [amsoil] as the pyramid scheme amway company. I hate the marketing but I love the oil, which is why I sell it. I only decided to carry it after trying it for myself for a couple of years. Now I use it in everything. I even use the coolant in my farm tractors (but I don't bother trying to sell it $$$$$$).

 

[revhigh]

we are questioning if even EP has VISOM hydrocracked petroleum in it.

Out of curiosity .... WHO are the 'WE' in your quotatioin above ?? It's sounding a lot like you work for AMSOIL, which is fine ... but if that's the case ... you should say so. Absolutely no offense intended.

REV

 

[UnleashedBeast]

This probably won't mean much to those who want to use super-premium oils in their Foci (not saying there's anything wrong with that, but it's not me), but the regular old Motorcraft synth blend that the owner's manual recommends is pretty highly regarded over at the "Bob Is The Oil Guy" forums.

You are correct, Motorcraft 5W-20 is one of the best entry level lubricants on the market. It simply works and returns great UOAs. Your post does mean a lot, it means that Ford has a winning non-expensive lubricant that has been proven to perform. However, I can't say the same about Motorcraft 5W-50 recommended for the Ford GT, GT500, Boss 302, and track pack GT.

After that my intention is to run Mobil 1 for 10K OCI's -if- I can get away without changing the filter. If I'm taking that stupid cover off to change the filter then I will just chainge the oil when I have it apart.

To insure success, use Mobil 1 Extended Performance in the 5.1 quart containers. It's only $5.00 more than regular synthetic Mobil 1, but worth the additional investment.

lol, I am a Amsoil dealer, and I always refer to them [amsoil] as the pyramid scheme amway company. I hate the marketing but I love the oil, which is why I sell it. I only decided to carry it after trying it for myself for a couple of years. Now I use it in everything. I even use the coolant in my farm tractors (but I don't bother trying to sell it $$$$$$).

Ditto, I also use it in everything, even my push lawn mowers. They use to yank your shoulder out of socket when you tried to pull start them, but with Amsoil, you barely pull the cord and it starts the first time.

Amsoil is in fact multi level marketing, but I wouldn't use the stereotype "Pyramid". It's much different. The top guy isn't the one making all the money, the man who works their dealership is, no matter if he is the top, middle, or bottom guy.

Out of curiosity .... WHO are the 'WE' in your quotatioin above ?? It's sounding a lot like you work for AMSOIL, which is fine ... but if that's the case ... you should say so. Absolutely no offense intended.

REV

"We" is defined as other internet posters in the know and people on the inside who's trust I have earned. I wish I worked as an Amsoil employee, I need a job. []

I do hold an Amsoil independent dealer number, but showing people how to buy it at cost doesn't bring home any bacon for me. I do it for the love of cars, and sharing that love with members of car forums who I share something in common with.

 

[Kabigon]

Now I need a solution for the factory DCT transmission. DCT fluid isn't common these days, as the technology is still kinda new. I've been researching alternate fluids other than Ford's DCT fluid, but to no avail. Guess I have to wait for companies to formulate something better.

Why do you need a solution?
How exactly would you quantify another gear oil as "something better"?

 

[KeithLM]

That get's funnier every time I hear it. [rofl]

No, they are not.

Amsoil was once spelled, "Amzoil" after the owner's name of Al Amatuzio.

lol, I am a Amsoil dealer, and I always refer to them [amsoil] as the pyramid scheme amway company. I hate the marketing but I love the oil, which is why I sell it. I only decided to carry it after trying it for myself for a couple of years. Now I use it in everything. I even use the coolant in my farm tractors (but I don't bother trying to sell it $$$$$$).

Amsoil is in fact multi level marketing, but I wouldn't use the stereotype "Pyramid". It's much different. The top guy isn't the one making all the money, the man who works their dealership is, no matter if he is the top, middle, or bottom guy.

OK, so you admit it. That's good. Now why do you think people make the comparison to Amway? It's because you pop up on this forum and start preaching about your oil and telling us what an authority you are on it and how everything else is inferior and how we'll all learn from you and understand it's the best.

You need to chill it with the rhetoric. You come off as a blow-hard and it's difficult to take you seriously. And when you are affiliated with a company you should state that up front when you start pushing it on other people.

 

[UnleashedBeast]

OK, so you admit it. That's good. Now why do you think people make the comparison to Amway? It's because you pop up on this forum and start preaching about your oil and telling us what an authority you are on it and how everything else is inferior and how we'll all learn from you and understand it's the best.

You need to chill it with the rhetoric. You come off as a blow-hard and it's difficult to take you seriously. And when you are affiliated with a company you should state that up front when you start pushing it on other people.

For the record, I've been studying lubricant formulation and technology since 2004. That was long before I had ever heard the name "Amsoil". During the course of study, it was difficult to avoid chatter about the product. It seemed to always be mentioned, and was winning respect in circles. I dug deep with a shovel to discredit the brand as snake oil, I failed.

Like I said, you will view me like that the first few months to a year, but your view will change. The UOA threads will pop up, and the comparisons will begin. I don't make claims that I can't back up, and if you were a poster on SVT Performance, you would already know what I mean. Have patience, it's coming.

In the end, my PM inbox blows up with application questions of all types, and not just about Amsoil. Many ask what they can grab off the shelf that is possibly a better choice for their application. Not all questions are about the car a forum is centered around.

P.S. What seems to be the problem with Amway? I've known families in the past to market and sell Amway products with success. It helped them live more comfortable. Where's the negative in that?

*Yes, I agree that Amsoil would be "considered" a better, more reputable, product if it was sold in Wal Mart or auto part stores.*

 

[Kabigon]

My 2008 Mazdaspeed 3 had it's oil changed every 3,000 miles. Out of the 6 qts. it took... I'd say on average between 4-5 came out, usually closer to 4... Had I waited until 5,000 miles, or even worse, 7-10,000 miles... I probably would have seized the engine.

Are you stating that a 5000 mile OCI on a Mazdaspeed 3 is going to do serious damage to the engine?

 

[Nutty 5.0]

UB is a good guy. Sold my terminator last year so I don't get on SVT much now. Welcome to FF!

EDIT: I'm also another Amsoil user. For the oil change intervals, Amsoil ends up being cheaper if you go with the flavors that offer extended range. I like changing oil once every six months or a year.