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cool! hell that solved my last issue then. thanks guys. its definitely worth a try.... just hope it fits still...
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Hey, Guys. Just checking in since I started this thread. Glad to see some have found it useful. I've been running my Focus since the original post and have had no problems at all. For my purposes, it seems to be a good fit. Some have asked some detailed questions and I'm glad others have been able to address them. See you later.

-MK
 
Including the time it took me to find the optimal possition for the little glass capsul and 'super-glue' it in place, this whole project took me 20 minutes. Has been working for a little over a month now w/no probs.
I got two(2) spares, one for work and one for home, from Home Depot. I think they were $1.30 each. That's 1/200th the cost of a(1) new programmed PATS key each. You can look for bargains where ever you want but it is hard to beat that value.
 
Very nice. I did this same mod to my old '98 Accord for the same reason. I had only one pass key and about 4 cheap cut keys and wanted them to work. I had to wire tie the pass key up to the transponder as the honda key did not come apart.

Thanks for the good info. I believe I'll add it to my to do list. ;-)
 
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Hey, it been many months since I first made this modification and the car hasn't had a single glitch. Starts every time. And nobody has stolen it, either! This is my first Focus and I've grown to really like it - handles well, rides great, turns corners, climbs hills...what more can a guy want?

MK
 
yeah, ill pass on doing this I like all my wagons and I don't mind throwing out $300 for new keys either cuz I can take the key to my focus and use it on my F-150 and the key to the F150 on my focus :p

Video coming soon!! this is why I would NEVER bypass my pats

---- Edit
well it seems if you flick a non coded key enough on the focus it will start cranking but won't start and rapid fire the security LED

the file is 177mb so I'm uploading it to one of my premium bandwidth servers cuz its to large for youtube/photobucket to handle
 
Well, I have something to add for the people that still have 2 working keys and are pondering about doing this.

If you have 2 or more working keys you can just buy a replacement Ford key off ebay for like $5 (Something like that I forget the exact price but it was less than $10) and you can have a locksmith cut the key and then you can program the key yourself for free afterwards. It'll end up costing you no more than $20. I remember the local locksmith here cut my key for $1 and the key I believe was $5 so it cost me $6 to make a spare.

Downside is only works if you have at least 2 working keys
 
its $147cdn to wipe the keys, $19 a key from ford which are ILCO's and they program them with the $147 (part of the price)

I had the old single key removed with the old crappy remote
added 2 brand new ILCO Keys and 2 Brand new Ford FOB's
it was slightly under $350 with a new Ignition cylinder reprogram, 2 new keys, 2 new remotes and I still have the old un-programmed pats as a spare LOL
 
This How-to is EXACTLY what I needed to find. I went to the dealership to activate the 2 keys I had cut. They could not get their scanner to communicate with my car, so it was a no-go. I only have 1 working key and I was hoping I could do this. THANKS!
 
yeah, ill pass on doing this I like all my wagons and I don't mind throwing out $300 for new keys either cuz I can take the key to my focus and use it on my F-150 and the key to the F150 on my focus :p
I agree, other than saving some money on programming an additional key there is no reason to "bypass" PATS. Just leaves your car vulnerable. And for those who think people don't steal older cars, people steal whatever kind of car they can. If you have one key and need 3, 4, or however many just spend the $50-$75 and get 1 more key programmed and you can do the rest yourself. Not worth the risk IMO.
 
That is interesting. Curious though - With the car running what happens if you move the transponder out of range - does the car shut off or is there a fail safe once it is running?
i had to do it before when i snapped the key as all yuou get in the uk is a remote central locking key with transponder, a programming key with main transponder, and a non transponder key to be able to get into the car in emergency.

i lost my main programming key and one day decided to go and snap my remote central locking key, i panicked thinking how the hell do i get to work ive only got the non transponder key left. i thought if i had the remains of the central locking key with transponder next to the non transponder key it might get it started but will it run?

tried it anyway and voila it worked. the transponder key fell down off the side of the non trans key and it still worked.

so you only need the transponder bit to get the car to start, once its running you can put the transponder where you like. so id say that is probably the best thing to do just keep the transponder hidden in the car somewhere rather than strapped to the side of the ignition barrel
 
I just wanted to thank Mike again for a great write-up. I feel much better now that I know I don't have to rely on one key.

I would much rather have the dealership program a key for me, but as I stated earlier, there was no communication between the CPU in the car and the dealership scanner.

This mod was easy, quick and cheap. It doesn't get any better then that!
 
Interesting info and pics about the keys and transponders. However, the keys to my '07 are of a different configuration--the slot for the key ring goes clear across the key and there's no way that I can see to get a transponder out of it. I wanted to disable the anti-theft feature of the key setup in case I'm out in the boondocks and it quits working.

Can I just take someting out of the key setup in the steering column to allow the engine to be started without the transponder key? Or maybe just wait until it quite working and then take that something out of the steering column unit? And keep a T 15 torx tool handy?

One more question---would using a cheap key ($2.00) with no transponder be the same as using the key with the transponder removed?

Thanks in advance for any info------------signman
 
The first part of your question I have no idea.

However,

"One more question---would using a cheap key ($2.00) with no transponder be the same as using the key with the transponder removed?"

Yes, they would work the same.
 
One more question---would using a cheap key ($2.00) with no transponder be the same as using the key with the transponder removed?

Thanks in advance for any info------------signman
yes exactly the same
 
2007 key

Interesting info about the key/transponder situation. My 2007 key does not look like the one pictured--the slot for the key ring goes clear across the key and I can't see any way to get a transponder out.

I got 3 keys and everything works fine--one is a key-remote combination, which is real handy.

But I don't like the possibility of being out in the sticks and having the system fail, and would like to disable this requirement, so that just a plain $2.00 key would work.

This might not be possible, but if it is, could somebody tell me how to do it?

Any info appreciated
Regards, Signman
 
2007 key

Interesting info about the key/transponder situation. My 2007 key does not look like the one pictured--the slot for the key ring goes clear across the key and I can't see any way to get a transponder out.

I got 3 keys and everything works fine--one is a key-remote combination, which is real handy.

But I don't like the possibility of being out in the sticks and having the system fail, and would like to disable this requirement, so that just a plain $2.00 key would work.

This might not be possible, but if it is, could somebody tell me how to do it?

Any info appreciated
Regards, Signman
 
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