Hey Richie, sounds like your looking for the elusive "free power"... The only thing you missed in your lineup that might meet your $$ ctiteria is NO2...

 

Turbos are not street legal ?? Where are you from ?

 

ever hook up emissions equipment to a turboed svt? you wont pass. im from jersey but im in the military. now im in ak and could wind up in cali. i need emissions legal everything for my ride. nos is a good option but no i dont want free h.p. i just want a consistant 14 sec car, mid 14's.

 

The tunes are very cost effective and make a signifigant difference, and the TB doesn't just improve throttle feel, it signifigantly improves throttle response. The same is true of the CAI and a better exaust, especially with the RT high-flow cat (7-8 FWHP, $368). Just because some things don't add BHP doesn't mean they won't make your car noticeably faster...

Grounding kit is worth a few horsies and is nearly free as well.

 

my point is already made. not a lot of people can say that you get mid to low 14-s from bolt-ons, at least no one that ive seen YET. tunes dont make a significant difference, i know because i have one. all im saying is svt did a great job with getting the engine to breath really well. basic bolt-ons are essentually intakes and exhausts to get the engine to breath better. i know what the basic components do to enhance the cars performance. show me mid to low 14's with bolt-ons and ill be singing another tune. im asking to see something not hatin on the svt.

 

Nos, nos, nos, or you could get the JRSC - other than that you're beating a dead horse.

 

get the powerworks s/c its fully emissions legal and Im SURE that it will get you into the mid 14's easily

 

You know it's wierd but I have spoken with someone who is deeply involved in the industry as well as product development for the SVTF (as well as many others) and they mentioned that they have seen SVTF's actually loose some power by installing some aftermarket parts. Very interesting point I think as well as a testament to how fine of a job that SVT did with these cars. Choose wisely [thumb]

 

^^^^^I agree totally the stuff SVT put on there stock is GOOD so be careful what you do put on there aftermarket.................as always "you get what you pay for"

 

not mid-low 14's but i'm scratching the top of that 14 second barrier. it's possible except that i just had to set my tune back to stock while it's being updated by sct and wayne's putting a new tune on it. Problem is who knows how long all thats going to take. but i know people have gotten their N/A svtf's into the 14's. But who cares about straight line anyway.

 

in a few weeks after I get a few things done and Wayne gets ahold of my SCT again Ill be in the 14's

 

get a short ram along with maybe a borla 2.5" exhaust, cams, and TB...you'll be in the 14's

 

I've got the mod bug as well, and I know that most of my stuff has definitely helped my SVTf along the path the greatness...but in different ways. Sure some of the stuff has helped performance-wise, but others have simply boosted the driveability of my car. The STS/VF mod made driving more enjoyable, shifting became easier and less herky-jerky...(that's a fun word to say, isn't it? [] )

My intake aided in better breathing, and upgraded plugs/wires/grounding kit aided in better startups and idle issues...

Our SVTf's were built awesome, I love that fact! Now, go and take your ride for a spin, and show it that you still love it! It has feelings too! []

 

my point is already made. not a lot of people can say that you get mid to low 14-s from bolt-ons, at least no one that ive seen YET. tunes dont make a significant difference, i know because i have one. all im saying is svt did a great job with getting the engine to breath really well. basic bolt-ons are essentually intakes and exhausts to get the engine to breath better. i know what the basic components do to enhance the cars performance. show me mid to low 14's with bolt-ons and ill be singing another tune. im asking to see something not hatin on the svt.

How much do you think a tiny 4 cylinder engine has to offer? It give a descent amount for its displacement. Heck the SVT is pushed a pretty good rate stock. with its duratec head (yes that's right) fairly free flowing exhuast and some of the bests header you can get for our cars

 

You see, this is why I bought my SVT. Out of the box it has everything I wanted. But i'm starting to learn that there is room for improvement which JonMichael just me mentioned. If you really want to put it into perspective go test drive a used stock ZX3, you'll be running back to your SVT in no time. Power wise, if I were to do FI, I think I would start saving for the Powerworks kit.

 

Intake - I have a Steeda. Can't say I noticed much power gain. It does sound nice under the hood at WOT.
Throttle Body - Helps with the feel of the pedal (not so stiff) and opened up the airway for the intake.
UDP's - Freed up power being sapped by accessories. Noticed a slight gain in power and it revved up better.
RT Cat - Louder exhaust. Noticed a bit of power, comparable to a tune.
Tune - Noticed some power and got rid of a few quirks. Having issues with my XCal 2 (also have an XCal 1). Got rid of the popping exhaust which I loved, but having more power is worth it.
Cam gear - Needs to be run on the dyno to compare the gains. Gonna install one this weekend hopefully.

With these mods, my car feels MUCH stronger. While some of the mods don't add much themself, combine a few together (intake and tb for example) and they add more combined. If you want 14's, get the JRSC and be done with it.



Exhaust - Wayne (Hypnotic Illusions) claims to lose .3 in the quarter mile with his exhaust. It could be driver error or tweaking a vehicle - only he and whoever was with know the truth.
Cams - I believe there aren't any available for the SVT, so they'd have to be custom ground.

 

How much do you think a tiny 4 cylinder engine has to offer? It give a descent amount for its displacement. Heck the SVT is pushed a pretty good rate stock. with its duratec head (yes that's right) fairly free flowing exhuast and some of the bests header you can get for our cars

This tiny 4 cyc has ALOT to offer!

On stock internals it is possible to go above 300whp [confused]

 

^^^yeah ask 03orangesvt lol

 

i've probably talked to 2 people who've run 14.8 or so in a n/a svtf. get all the bolt ons, get re-tuned, then see what you're running. i assume you have a dragstrip by your house, or i don't see why you'd be so stuck on this 14 second kick. if you want reasonably priced, consistent 14 second timeslips without all the hassle, go with the jackson racing s/c + the big boost kit. for under 3g's, there is no cheaper, or safer way. you'll be set.

what are you running now? you know a lot of it has to do with the driver's ability. is your t/c disabled, if you have it? do you have lightweight rims? did you think about upgrading the clutch/flywheel? like a lot of people say, you want to go fast in a straight line, get a mustang.... you wanna be able to stay going fast when the corner comes up, keep your damn svt focus and quit whining!

 

"keep your damn svt focus and quit whining!"
was i? im sorry all i said was that bolt -ons for this car dont do much. the car is well built. learn to read.
so far i havent seen anyone making a low to mid 14 sec claim, only people that other people have talked to. as i stated before i know what all the mods CAN do. also, yes everything is about the drivers skills. ive seen numbers from 15.1-16.3 on this car. obviously theres some skill involved in driving this car.
my original claim was that bolt-ons dont do much for the car. thats why i was at a crossroad desiding if i wanted to dump money into the car. im not spending money to have it perform exactly the same.

 

im not spending money to have it perform exactly the same.

Or worse! I'm with you on that man. One has to scrutinize every possible mod purchase on the SVTF. It would be great if we could all afford to dyno every single mod wouldn't it?

 

lol. yea it would. im glad someone one sees it logically.

 

SVTBishop

Of course it does when you go FI......shit any idiot knows that.

My comment was based off the original poster who talked about all his bolt ons and how they lacked to give him what he needed. Then he went into how a turbo wasn't emission legal. yadda yadda yadda.

Shit with the powerworks kit on the svt you can exspect 250whp without any tuning.

You must've misunderstood my whole point into how the tiny 4 cylinder engine give a fair amount already for its displacement. How many 4 cylinders do you know of that are doing 300whp out of the box bone stock..........

so, what exactly is your point?

 

Hey Richie,

From reading every post on this particular thread, it's seems pretty obvious that the only sure fire way to have your consistent 14sec. svtf is to go f/i. At this point, I think it's simply a matter of defining what your budget is for your car. JRSC gets hated on bc of its relatively low boos capabilities (non-intercooled, afterall), but for how much it costs, it's hard to beat. And, it's CARB legal in all 50states, and that's hard to beat, too. The Powerworks kit costs a couple of grand more than the JRSC, and from what I understand is essentially the same piece of hardware as the JRSC, BUT it is intercooled and that makes a HUGE difference in power gains.

And, yea, since you mentioned you might be getting transfered to Cali, you'll want to keep it clean (pardon the pun) with emissions here. However, here in Cali, we only have 91 octane gas, and I know that some folks don't even recommend going f/i with the focus unless you have access to at least 93 octane...

...it's your call, but do also take into consideration that the JSRC is technically considered a 'bolt-on' modification...

Cheers!

 

hey someone mentioned cams for svt. where do you find them i cant find any just the zx3 (