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Blackjack.. NO GOOD!

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Blackjack, a member mainly focused on the For Sale section of this site and a few others, is a shady member and sells mis-advertised/unusable parts. I recently took a trip down to San Diego, which is a seven hour drive, for a SVTF longblock he had listed for sale on Focus Fanatics.
Link to thread: http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=228210
Listed as so:
blackjack said:
Item Description -SVT Long Block
Asking/Offering Price - $300 OBO
Contact - pm me here
Your Location - Socal



Ford 2003 SVT Long block with 53K miles on it. Motor does not have any accessories or water pump.



The good;



Vavle train is perfect and in tact; Cams, valves, cam gears, VCT solenoid, and head. Oil cooler, lower timing belt cover, coil, ignition wires, crank pulley, and oil seperater are included.



The bad;



Vavle cover and upper timing belt cover is already been sold, and piston rings 2 & 3 are fried.


LOCAL PICK UP ONLY



Someone please come get this out my garage, before i just remove the head and cams, then just seel them for a lot more. Lower block still has all SVT stuff; oil squirters and oil cooler
The longblock was listed for $300 OBO and advertised as having bad rings on pistons two and three. Other than that, he listed the rest as being in great shape.
I asked him if he'd cut me a bit off the price because of the long drive there. He said sure. Anyhow, I got there and ended up paying $320. He sold me two items: the SVTF longblock and a SVTF alt bracket. No deal really cut there. He did however throw in a glorified POTs mod for free. Before the engine got into my car, I had to remove the thermostat housing, which the O-ring was caked with red RTV. O-ring failure sounds like a common problem with Zetec thermo housings, right?

I got the engine home and began to disassemble it. The first thing I noticed about the engine was the massive amount of oil buildup on the outside. I pulled the upper timing cover first, which was cracked. The next part I pulled was the valve cover. It has a piece broken off near the intake cam on the outer rim. The gasket was also caked with the same red RTV that is not for use in an oiled environment. I then proceeded to disassemble and remove the head. The cams checked out fine.
After pulling the head off, I noticed three out of four pistons were fried. Really now? My friend, Doug, a 30yr mechanic, proceeded to tell me the block is more than likely screwed because of the apparent piston damage and the rings being unseated (damages the cyl walls). Well, guess who was right? Doug was.

Once I got the head flipped over, Doug immediately pointed out damage to three water jackets from electrolysis and running the cooling system dry. Two water jacket's corrosion spots are on the outer ring of a combustion chamber and greatly interfere with the usefulness of the head. It might as well be a piece of scrap now.

So now, to total it up, the head, pistons, block, and possibly the crank are done. The pistons are only dealer-ordered and are paired with the forged rods. You cannot order them separately. The setup is over $500 new.

Blackjack and I have been going back and forth on this purchase and he has denied all liability for the engine and its mis-advertisement on Focus Fanatics. He claims the engine was running in his car just before he pulled it and the car was running "PIG RICH." Just a note: When your car is running "PIG RICH", you don't fry pistons. You fry pistons when you run "DUCK LEAN". Also, running your car low on coolant or mixing coolants that aren't supposed to be mixed destroys aluminum cylinder heads.
Blackjack has also refused any form of compensation for my apparent loss. I shelled out a lot from my savings in hopes of a decent turn-around for this purchase.

I have several pictures and the private messages to back up my claim if necessary. My best advice to fellow members: avoid purchases from Blackjack involving anything that requires disassembly to check the condition of, OR you could avoid him altogether and save yourself a lot of stress and money.
 
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some how this doesn't surprise me...

On an offtopic rant, can mods do something with his threads in the b/s/t? There is so many its ridiculous.
Agreed! I always thought that we could only have one thread at a time. I do know the "other" forum makes you open multiple threads for parts. Maybe the mods can do something in the future where we can only have one thread (like mlbbaseball) and list multiple parts within the thread. When blackjack bumps his threads he literally is the only person on page one, kind of unfair.
 
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U did buy a blown up motor. what els could u expect? and it was running "pig rich" because the rings/pistons were fried causing a incomplete burn on the fuel and the raw fuel is going past the o2 sensors so it reads rich.
 
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CORRECT!!! In the thread it LIST that the RINGS ARE FRIED

I explianed to him, that they were fried when he came and picked it up. PLUS I even gave him $100 off the motor, an extra SVT alternator bracket, SVT vavle cover, and the timing belt cover!!!!

Received WAY MORE in parts than what the engine was WORTH or what he paid for!!!!

I even explained that I had to drive the car half of block to get it to my garage ANYWAY, we both new that the motor still ran. So I knew the head was still in good shape.

He had the option to remove the head right there is he wanted... the intake manifold and header was already removed.

So I cut him a great deal, becasue i told him. Either take the whole motor, or I was just going to remove the head, and scrap the lower block.

X2 he has like 30 post with one part each..

but that does suck..


i could have sold you a good motor for $500 (i got 2 extra)
there's no rules against that! If you have a problem, just check to the next page...

I'm also not suprised, despite his good feedback... I recall that a member on the 'other' forum bought a set of wheels from him, even paid for them, and blackjack sold them to someone else out from under him.
Thread said that wheels were for sale locally "craigslist" Somone came and got them that same day i received payment. He received a FULL REFUND, instantly......

I have had no problem buying from blackjack but the number of individual items for sale is out of control.
Thank you!!!

dude...this little [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]g prick screwed me over as well, but not as bad as you. Bought an SVT upper grill which was told to be in good working condition to find out that 3/4 of the mounting brackets are broken. Then this little piece of shit when asked if I can get a refund tells me the tabs were "perfect" when he sent it out. This is impossible because #1 there are no little black pieces of plastic scattered about in the box and #2 the douche bag tried to fix it by drilling a hole in one of the tabs. I have pics but there on my home computer...I'll get them up as soon as possible

I asked him one more time to "please refund my money" being completely civil about the matter and yet not response after 2 days. Im done being nice...

Is there nothing we can do to punish this [:)][:)][:)][:)]?

as for your problem gold......

Look in the "for sale" thread pic, the grill has all tabs INTACT!!!

You cannot tell me that were missing/broken. I carefull removed EVERY plastic clip out of the tabs for the grill myself..
 
#6 ·
^^
Exactly my thoughts. I hate going through the new posts each day and having pages filled up with random parts from him for sale all individually labeled.
 
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#7 ·
This whole thing doesn't surprise me at all, He is a pain in the ass to sell to also. He bought a throttle body from me, took forever to pay for it, and turned people away from my ad so it wouldn't sell to someone else.[:(!]
 
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i dont have any experience with blackjack other than being slightly annoyed by him having so darn many listings. it would be nice if he could condense them all into one. other than that it isnt up to us to pass judgment. you went in knowing there were engine problems and im sure you were welcome to take a look at it there. if i drove 7 hours to pick up a motor i sure as heck would at the very least remove the head to check it out. now he DID list the head as basically near perfect and you can clearly see that it is not. in laments terms that head = foobar. now im sure he will pop in before long to voice his opinion. there are ALWAYS two sides to these things.
 
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Yeah, he was helpful in a retrograde fashion. I'm drunk, maybe you can bring him back to 1?

To the OP, you bought an engine block knowing it would be fairly fu#$ed up. Why are you surprised that it turns out to be more than that? You get what you pay for man.
 
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damn glad I never bought from him the way your talking [paranoid]
 
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I'm also not suprised, despite his good feedback... I recall that a member on the 'other' forum bought a set of wheels from him, even paid for them, and blackjack sold them to someone else out from under him.
 
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dude...this little [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]g prick screwed me over as well, but not as bad as you. Bought an SVT upper grill which was told to be in good working condition to find out that 3/4 of the mounting brackets are broken. Then this little piece of shit when asked if I can get a refund tells me the tabs were "perfect" when he sent it out. This is impossible because #1 there are no little black pieces of plastic scattered about in the box and #2 the douche bag tried to fix it by drilling a hole in one of the tabs. I have pics but there on my home computer...I'll get them up as soon as possible

I asked him one more time to "please refund my money" being completely civil about the matter and yet not response after 2 days. Im done being nice...

Is there nothing we can do to punish this [:)][:)][:)][:)]?
 
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HONESTLY,


Most of you guys I HAVE NEVER dealt with, and your just jumping on the band wagon.

These 2 transactions weren't the best, but BOTH buyers were 100% completly informed of what they were buying before they paid....
 
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Ok you 100% informed me of my product...so then you sold me a perfectly good condition grill from these pictures you posted anyway...umm so why did I get a crap part?
 
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I've already said it once...what stops you from taking pictures of a good grill and then sending me a shit one? NOTHING! I would not gain a single thing from lying about a part being broken, I JUST WANT A GRILL! You obviously sent me a crap piece because you tried to drill a hole in the upper left tab to "fix" it!!!! And then you change my feedback to negative because im "complaining" about you sending me crap?! COME ON!
 
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there was no switching of the grills, you received the one in the pic. I don't even have orginal grill on my svt...

I NEVER drilled any holes in that grill. I just removed it from the car, snap a pic, then packaged it up in the box.
 
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damn guys.... this is out of control! So what that he has a lot of posts for stuff for sale.....I mean how hard is it to klick a number to change pages.....not that phisically demanding... I would do tha same thing if i had that much stuff to sell, it would make it easier to know who wants what....not one page with 100 parts for sale and 500 people posting what they want and questions.. IM NOT TAKING SIDES WITH ANYONE....just saying its like a high school bitching fest in here. I totally agree with issues arising over bad parts or something being in worse condition than you had expected...but when you buy used parts thats something thats going to happen...when you buy a cheap used part instead of a brand new one for the full price you have got to expect to repair it in someway or Modify it to work the way you want. Just my opinion. DONT HATE ME FOR IT.... :)
 
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I was not 100% completely informed of the condition of this engine. Why didn't you just list the cylinder head instead of beating around the bush on the condition of the engine? You could have just said, "Hey man, the block is [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)]," and I would have been much better off than I was. I purchased this engine with the knowledge of it only needing a set of piston rings replaced to run correctly. The condition of it is far from the description given to me by you both in person and in the listing. If you're considering arguing my experience with cars, engines, and potential problems that may add up under conditions, remember it's only reflecting back on you as a shady seller.
Also, where in any of that transaction did you "cut me a deal"??? Especially near your $100 off mark? You listed it for $300 OBO. I ended up paying you $320 in a combination of cash and Paypal to cover the transaction ALONE because it totaled higher than you originally had listed. I understand a SVTF alternator bracket is in the $35 shipped range, but that really comes down to about $22 picked up give or take. If you're considering arguing the fact that the valve cover and upper timing cover were both still attached to the head and if you were thinking of using those as "extra parts I gave him," well reconsider your reasoning. Both the valve cover and upper timing cover are both damaged and were at the time of us meeting. I can provide pictures of this as well. Basically, you took $2 off the price of the engine for a guy that drove seven hours one way to assure you'd sell him the engine and not let someone else buy it.
I also had to buy food for my buddy and I that night because you left us waiting for several hours for you to get off work. We agreed on meeting in the evening, which to the majority of Americans is about 7PM. 11:30 PM, the time we finally met, is far past the evening and quickly approaching midnight. I was in San Diego waiting from 5PM to 10:30PM for you to give any indication of when you were finishing up your tasks. Although this had nothing to do with the condition of the engine, it reflects back on you as being a poor seller because you couldn't communicate with me like you should.
 
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first of all, the vavle cover and timing belt cover were not damaged at all. Unless you damaged them one your way home. That's the reason why I wanted to keep them, I had a few other people who wanted the vavle cover. I just didn't have time to remove it.

second, you never told me what time you were coming out. You just poped up and said "hello, we're here to get the motor" with no warning at all.....

Bascially, i did just listed the head. I told you that night, "if you don't buy the entire motor, I'm just going to remove and sell the head. Then junk the lower block."

You told me, "no, i think i can rebuild it and make a MONSTER zetec motor, and have a SVT motor in my ZX2"

I even recommend you that the tuning would be a PITA and just port you stock ZX2 head, becasue of the SVT cam sensor being on the intake cam, and the ZX2's on the exhaust cam. Then swap out the intake manifolds.

I won't have mind if you wanted to remove and inspect the head that night. I had the tools, all you had to do was ASK.
 
#39 ·
if its that much of a problem why dont you just take the whole thing back down there? i dont know about you but personally i wouldnt have a hard time "negotiating" a refund for something like this so long as the motor was returned in the same shape it was in when it left.
 
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#42 ·
the motor is in pieces, I'm not taking it back.......

He understood clearly that night what he was purchasing, there wasn't any piece of information that was left out.

I even helped load it into his car, included hand cleaning materials, and boxes so the motor can sit on for the ride back home...


I WAS NOT A POOR SELLER
 
#41 ·
i dont know if you had the opportunity to take a peek at that head off the block but the head is screwed too man. i sure as hell wouldnt run it. not trying to pick a fight, im just saying.
 
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#43 ·
no need to get bent out of shape man. you said yourself you were going to take the head off and trash the bottom end. what is the problem? the head is still intact.

for the record i have not taken a side, im only pointing out things that have already been said and putting them into proper context. i never said you are a poor seller. please just chill
 
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Actaully we do not need your help "mother"

You seem to want to hop in anyone threads to "spice" things up, when it isn't needed.

if your not a mod, there's really NO NEED for your input.

First of all, the damage on the valve cover was present when I removed the upper timing cover. Second of all, the upper timing cover was cracked upon inspection when I picked the engine up.

Second, we agreed over the phone to meet in the evening. I didn't bitch or complain about the wait until about 10:30, which I proceeded to ask you if you were getting off work soon. You then replied with "I'll be off in an hour." I was in the San Diego area at the window of time MOST would consider the evening, and then some.

When I complained at 10:30 about the time and everything, the first response I got from you was, "If you don't buy it, I have another guy coming down to pick it up." Dick move much?
When we met I told you I was going to utilize, or attempt to utilize, the head and sell the rest. I figured you just didn't want to deal with the teardown.


That has nothing to do with the condition of the cylinder head, the block you sold me, or the condition of the items I purchased. I could have used any SVTF head for this project, but I chose yours for the initial price.


By the time we finally met up, my buddy and I were absolutely finished with waiting for you. If we would have met around the "evening" window of time we had planned, I would have been much more enthused about removing the head from the block. Oh, I forgot to mention: One of the cam cap studs on the head was extremely over-torqued and stripped out when I tried removing it. I'm quite positive this would have been the case while trying it at your house as well.
As for this transaction, there was another buyer interested, he called the next morning for the motor. It wasn't a dick move, I was just being honest with you.

The timing belt over was NOT crack, unless you cracked during transportation or removing it. As for the vavle cover, it wasn't damage while the engine was in my care.

There's no need to continue to bricker over this. You have ALREADY disassembld the motor, and destroyed some of the parts. I was 100% clear about the details of the motor, from which I knew. The rings were fried, but the motor still ran. You even had the chance to remove the head yourself if you wanted to.

You only paid $200 for the motor minus the extra stuff you got. That's more than what a SVT head, or even the SVT intake manifold alone goes for....

You got a STEAL of a deal....

I WILL NOT REFUND you on this transaction, thank you for you time and business.
 
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blackjack said:
first of all, the vavle cover and timing belt cover were not damaged at all. Unless you damaged them one your way home.
First of all, the damage on the valve cover was present when I removed the upper timing cover. Second of all, the upper timing cover was cracked upon inspection when I picked the engine up.
second, you never told me what time you were coming out. You just poped up and said "hello, we're here to get the motor" with no warning at all.....
Second, we agreed over the phone to meet in the evening. I didn't bitch or complain about the wait until about 10:30, which I proceeded to ask you if you were getting off work soon. You then replied with "I'll be off in an hour." I was in the San Diego area at the window of time MOST would consider the evening, and then some.
Blackjack said:
Bascially, i did just listed the head. I told you that night, "if you don't buy the entire motor, I'm just going to remove and sell the head. Then junk the lower block."
You told me, "no, i think i can rebuild it and make a MONSTER zetec motor. and have a SVT motor in my ZX2"
When I complained at 10:30 about the time and everything, the first response I got from you was, "If you don't buy it, I have another guy coming down to pick it up." Dick move much?
When we met I told you I was going to utilize, or attempt to utilize, the head and sell the rest. I figured you just didn't want to deal with the teardown.

Blackjack said:
I even recommend you that the tuning would be a PITA, becasue of the SVT cam sensor being on the intake cam, and the ZX2's on the exhaust cam.
That has nothing to do with the condition of the cylinder head, the block you sold me, or the condition of the items I purchased. I could have used any SVTF head for this project, but I chose yours for the initial price.

Blackjack said:
I won't have mind if you wanted to remove and inspect the head that night. I had the tools, all you had to do was ASK.
By the time we finally met up, my buddy and I were absolutely finished with waiting for you. If we would have met around the "evening" window of time we had planned, I would have been much more enthused about removing the head from the block. Oh, I forgot to mention: One of the cam cap studs on the head was extremely over-torqued and stripped out when I tried removing it. I'm quite positive this would have been the case while trying it at your house as well.
 
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My OT question is to you blackjack: Why can't you make just one thread like most of the other members here at FocusFanatics do? This is not FocalJet and we do not require separate threads for each part that you are selling. This would not only make you look like a good guy by compromising, but it would also make it a lot more fair to the others that are trying to sell parts. I am not bitching, I am simply asking.
 
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