ummm, you got a shortthrow shifter? that stock shifter was sloppy as hell but i still never missed 2nd.......it was either 3rd or 5th cause id let up on the clutch to fast cause it takes i guess a tad bit longer to shift into 3rd and 5th?

 

Check out the threads about changing the rear engine mount. Improves the accuracy of shifting, especially under load. The part is around $100 and is easy to replace.

 

I and someone else I know have the same problem, I installed a short throw shifter this week, no help. What we need is the VF rear mount, I think that should make it go away, will be my next mod. [thumb]

 

NO, What you need is to learn how to drive. HOW THE H3LL DO YOU MISS 2nd??

I don't even think it's possible to miss 2nd. Someone tag in here that's been driving various manual trannies for a while. Stop Double clutching and it'll fix that problem.

 

I've missed 2nd gear way too many times in races. It seems like you have to be lucky for it to engage [bash]


By the way, double clutching is for cars without a synchronized transmission, idiot.

 

yea i dont think ive ever missed a gear in a race, the only time i ever really miss gears is if im getting lazy and i let the clutch out to early, but yea i dont think u can blame missing 2nd gear on the car, i know when i miss gears its my fault.

 

NO, What you need is to learn how to drive. HOW THE H3LL DO YOU MISS 2nd??

I don't even think it's possible to miss 2nd. Someone tag in here that's been driving various manual trannies for a while. Stop Double clutching and it'll fix that problem.

Dude, you don't know what you're talking about. I've talked to one guy who is a very experienced drag racer and he has the same problem. It's not "missing" it, you pull the shifter back aggressively and nothing happens, it doesn't go into gear. It's from the torsional movement of the engine, an upgraded mount will fix it. We're not double clutching, we're not retarded, I know how to shift from first to second, Ive drag raced other cars, and I do the same thing, shifter slams right into gear and I go. It's not driver error. I guarantee you. If I slow my shift down, it goes in, but if I just slam it back from first, no luck.

 

It is almost embarrassing to agree with thefrush, but it is easy to not have the focus slide into second when shifting fast. This is the sixth manual transmission car I have owned and the only one that "acts" like that. This seams to be worse under hard accelleration, because of the engine moving.

I am planning to put in the before mentioned rear engine mount which reduces that problem under hard accelleration.

 

Just notice that both of you have 04's and have this issue. Hmmmm....?????

Well truth be told I've never had a problem missing 2nd gear, even without my STS. Also a attempt at a double clutch, or disengaging of the clutch before proper shift will prevent the tranny from going into gear, hence a missed gear. I've been guilty of releasing the clutch too soon and missed 2nd, also costing me the race. My fault all the way, also it was easy to do, and I've been driving a manual since I was 14.

Point is, missing a gear is something every manual driver has done at one time or another. Even the best of drivers have done so. []

 

Missing gears is not due to the transmission and engine moving, it's due to driver error. The purpose of those Mounts as advertised are to limit the movement of the engine and tranny so that there isn't any power loss due to the torque being absorbed by the mounts. I've got an 02 and have only missed from 6th to 3rd a couple of times on the interstate.

DRIVER ERROR. Your engine doesn't make as much torque as a drag car, why the h3ll are you trying to compare the two. They've got a ton of torque where as we only have 145 ft/lbs. So you mean to tell me that you're shifting so fast that your faster than the synchros in the tranny. Also if what you said was true then I'd suggest stopping that because your going to mess up the linkage, it ought to be pretty bent out of shape by now.

 

It is almost embarrassing to agree with thefrush,

Never, I do so all the time. Frush is my man.... *kiss* []

*Blush*.. Sorry back to topic.. []

 

Never, I do so all the time. Frush is my man.... *kiss* []

*Blush*.. Sorry back to topic.. []

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Moose & Squirrel Boy, you don't even know what you're talking about. Take a flight out here and I'll let you drive my car. I know how to drive a stick shift and I know I'm not doing anything wrong. I slam the shifter back, it's where it needs to be, but it's not in gear.

Anyways, I talked to Donille about it, and we came to the conclusion that some 04s must have gotten a bad batch of rear mounts. Because I asked her if her engine bangs back against the mount when she shifts hard and she said it does not. Well mine does. VF mount here I come.

 

Dude I'll be at Beale AFB a week from monday. That's just north of Sacramento by 47 miles and south of Yuba City by 5 miles. If it's a bad mount then why not get it warrantied?

 

50 miles north of Sacramento is about three hours from me, not worth that drive to prove a point. You going to still be out here November 6th?

 

Nah, I wanted to but my wife gets back from Korea on the 4th and I have reserve duty at beale on the 6th and 7th. I'll be sure to check out the forums for the next meet. Are you organizing the next one as well?

 

Anyways, I talked to Donille about it, and we came to the conclusion that some 04s must have gotten a bad batch of rear mounts. Because I asked her if her engine bangs back against the mount when she shifts hard and she said it does not. Well mine does. VF mount here I come.

Yeah I have to believe it's a bad batch of weak rear mounts. I have quite a few mods and at a tached out shift from first to second I have no issues what so ever and I've not read of any issues such as this on the SVTF, untill now.

We have 3 04 SVTF owner's having the same exact problem, again I've not read of any other year model SVTF owner having this problem. So I do believe a safe assumption is the rear mount is weak.

 

I misunderstood the point you were trying to make earlier. You're saying that your mounts are "BAD" or weaker than other SVTF, right? In that case I would have to agree with you Frush. But to just say Upgrade to the VF mount because your missing second, I was a little sceptical about that being the proper prognosis.

Good luck,
Rocky

 

Nah, I wanted to but my wife gets back from Korea on the 4th and I have reserve duty at beale on the 6th and 7th. I'll be sure to check out the forums for the next meet. Are you organizing the next one as well?

I'm not sure, I'll be organizing others in the future, check www.teamfocusnorcal.com [thumb]

Sorry I got huffy with you, but I do like the nickname Moose & Squirrel Boy. [rofl]

 

The actual nickname is Rocky, I put NBullwinkle so if any of ya'll played Halo online and seen me you might put two and two together. Bullwinkle is my Pops name on there. Yeah he's 45 and I'm 24 and we still play video games.

 

Sorry man, you're not getting out of Moose & Squirrel Boy.

 

Aight then. That's cool. I'll have to get a decal made up and put it across my windshield. Let us know how much that mount helps with an update or new thread.

Who was the mod that destroyed my Official Mexican/Chicano thread??

 

A little late but I've never ran into any mis-shifts while racing my 04'. I also do not have an engine banging prob either so maybe there is some merit to the bad engine mount theory.

 

You're not late, you're bringing the topic back from a hijacked thread.

I guess it would be kind of hard to get this fixed through warranty. They kind of frown upon the whole beating on the car thing when you take them for a ride and almost hit redline before you slam it into the next gear. They'll probably say that the problem is contributed to by the other than normal wear and tear. Those VF mounts are 150 a pop aren't they? I was thinking about getting some when my warranty goes out the window and I get my VORTECH.

 

A little late but I've never ran into any mis-shifts while racing my 04'. I also do not have an engine banging prob either so maybe there is some merit to the bad engine mount theory.

Maybe so, we'll see, I'm sure if so we will see more 04 SVTF owner's posting about it. I'm glad to hear you have no issues though. []

I wonder, what factors could be averaged in that might cause a mount to weaken on a car, other than a weak made mount?

 

Agressive shifting habits, dumping the clutch between shifts instead of feathering, anything that you would believe could cause excessive strain on the mounts will weaken them. Down shifting and not rev matching before release the clutch.

Basically for lack of a better term improper clutching habits, beating the crap out of your car in a race or daily driving will weaken them.

 

I've had the problem since I bought the car with 9500 miles. However, it was never privately owned, it was a dealer demo car, if they were abusing it, then karma will get them.