the problem is drag. the svt focus tops around 140 and just cant move any furthur. what you need is more horsepower. thats all you could do. i'd say like a full svt cobra swap, twin turbo the thing, rip its guts out. more power is what you need

 

misinformation is not a good thing.
yes it is limited by drag in stock form at a tad higher than you stated, but depending on the engine, forced induction will push it alot higher.
My svt with jrsc and somewheres about 215whp has seen 157 in 5th on a course and it literally had the crap scared out of me due to the hyper responsivness.
it takes alot more than what you stated such as speed rated tires, suspension, brakes, an a very experienced driver. put simply, every aspect of the car must be built for this.
after about 135 the svt will actually suck down tight and become ultra responsive. all it would take is a simple bump of the steering wheel and your going where you don;t want to fast...literally. you try turning like you would a corner it would be the last thing you ever did.
basically what I'm saying is don't even think about trying unless you have alot of driving experience, a wad of cash, and a hefty life insurance policy that covers stupidity. [thumbd]

 

Using some calculations and such that I've found over the years it looks like that if you used a Sedan that was cut down to 2500lbs with driver in the car you would need about 560whp@7350rpms to hit 200mph if you were using a stock MTX-75's gears with a 3.42 final drive. It being stable up to and at 200mph is a completely other story and in trying to make it stable you would add more drag to the car which in turn would require more horsepower.

 

3.42? u sure about that? if i'm not mistaken i remimber reading that we had a 3.83 gear. the auto is the 3.42 if i'm not mistaken.

 

there were some 3.42 gears in MTX-75's. I know for a fact they were put in the 2003-2004 2.3l Duratec ZX3's.

 

i see. thats shitty. i would deffinatly swap trannies if i had a 3.42 gear in it. i thought only the auto's were geared that low.

 

You can always just drop the transmission and put a 3.42 final drive gear in it.

 

i would much rather have the 3.83 or the 4.06 gear then a 3.42 i mean y whats the point in having that low of a gear?

 

Miss read your post sorry. Only reason I used the 3.42 gear was because using a 3.82 final drive would require revving out 5th gear to 8200rpms to hit 200mph.

 

agreed, but i see no reason why u would ever need for our cars to go that fast. not that u would even be able to get them that fast. i mean hell u would run out of road or hit a rock and loose control befor ya got that fast. stick to corners thats my plan!

 

If your only goal is 200mph in a Focus body, it might be possible on a drag-strip in a 1/4 mile. Just don't think of doing it on public roads, or a track. In a straight line it might be possible with extensive mods, running on some fuel other than gasoline. [hihi] I remember seeing a VW bug almost do that years ago. He was right ahead of me in the staging area. It had a yellow body, a monster super-charger, and was running on fuel.

Dumb idea for a Focus though......

 

Just don't think of doing it on public roads, or a track.
Dumb idea for a Focus though......

Please read all posts before making comments such as this. As I have already explained I am not going to attempt this. This thread is simply a theoretical as to if and how it COULD be done. Nothing more.

If you have some ideas as to how this might be achieved please share; and keep all opinions to yourself.

Thank you.

 

well you wouldn't be able to hit 200 with our 4 banger engine considering the tranny wouldn't be able to take it. the final drive would have to be like a 2.10 & a turboed engine with roughly 350- 400 HP. now with a V8 swap you might be able to reach it.

 

there is a dyno of a svt focus with little bolt ons that hit 172.5 mph.
obviously thats without drag on the car.
main thing is drag/aerodynamics

 

Its possible and not really that hard to do. Just to hit 200mph wouldnt be that hard. Surviving hitting 200 is a different story. Still though if you did it on the salt flats it would be possible. You would need a cage for safety, custom tranny for proper gearing, fully built turbo motor, some coustom suspension bits, and a lot of body work. 200mph isnt really that big of a deal. Its just dangerous. How many of us have seen around 160 in a boosted focus. Theres 2 of us posting in this thread and I know of 4 or 5 more.

 

i hit 140 in my svt n/a
really dont think it would be smart to go that high again haha.

 

^^^^^Even thinking about this is a stupid idea, theoretical or not. There's enough 16-year-olds driving a Focus, and reading these threads......who might be dumb enough to see just how fast they can go with their SVT, and on the street of course.

A simple disclaimer at the beginning of a potentially deadly idea....won't cut it.

 

And who's to say its a stupid idea to theoretically imagine what our beloved foci are capable of? You? Sorry, but that just doesn't quite change my mind.

Now if you'll please either return to topic as I asked before or stop posting in this thread it would be greatly appreciated. Thank you.

 

no one has even said they wanted to try it. stop getting this thread off topic befor it gets locked by the mods. its actually kinda an interesting thread if u ask me. i think it could be possible but would take some extream aero work on the car. even the svt at 130+ was nice and stuck to the raod but still it would take some work.

 

Thank you 06Roush.

So what we have so far:

-Major aero body work
-Much higher than stock final drive ratio
-Upwards of 600whp (and a transmission capable of handling it)

What would be best for keeping it stable at such a speed?

As mentioned before it becomes hyper sensitive at higher speed.
Maybe a full electronic wheel control that becomes softer at higher speeds?

 

you got it back words would need a lower gear. the lower the better lower gear will give you more top end.

and i would imagine if u did a full belly pan that would help also.

 

do they make a belly pan for the focus? i saw on Top Gear once where they did an endurance race with a BMW, and installed what i'm guessing was a belly pan...i always wondered what those were called. anyways, aside from decreasing turbulence and drag, it also appeared to provide stiffness and rigidity. would something like that help with a road course?

another quip from top gear...regarding the bugatti that can do 200+, they mentioned some crazy statistic that as speed increases, so does drag, but it's not simply 1:1. the faster you go, drag increases exponentially, so take a simple example - let's say it takes 100 HP to go 100 MPH. well, 200 HP does NOT equal 200 MPH. it would only get you to say 150 MPH. then you would need 300 HP to go 175, and 400 to go 187.5, etc, etc.

this is just an example, but you get the idea. as speed increases, drag doubles, so you need twice as much power just to go 50% faster.

this would be an interesting project though. who's gonna do it???

 

the bugatti only needs 300hp to hit 100mph, the other 701hp is to get it from 100mph up to the 262(i think) mph. so its a lot more power to get u going that much faster. so its a lil more then twice i think.

 

umm yeah...here's what i said

let's say it takes 100 HP to go 100 MPH. well, 200 HP does NOT equal 200 MPH. it would only get you to say 150 MPH. then you would need 300 HP to go 175, and 400 to go 187.5, etc, etc.

but thanks...that was what i was talking about regarding the bugatti. that was a freakin' sweet episode BTW, if anyone is a fan of Top Gear.

so yeah, my point is that it takes A LOT of power to hit 200 MPH, or you have to be darn slippery in the wind....or both!

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvkk7GENhHk

Its abit off topic but it is a 2.2 litre ford and does 200+ mph. He is rebulding at the moment to go faster.

http://passionford.com/forum/restorations-rebuilds-and-projects/268519-lets-get-on-with-it-then.html

 

i know i was just adding to what you were saying about it. sorry didn't mean to offend. but yea it idk i mean the svt only has what 147 ish at the wheels and i got to 136 a couple times. i mean i would think that a couple of our uper 300 guys could possibly get close don't you?

 

i dunno...i mean, there's only a handful of "stock" cars in the 200 club...and of those that are, i believe the smallest one is a porsche. from the quick search i did on the "net," i found that nearly every car the can achieve 200+ has on average, at least 600 HP.

i have to go back to the drag equation. i saw one site that says "The air resistance grows with the square of speed. Stick your hand out the side window of your car at 60 mph and feel the resistance. At 180, that force will be nine times stronger, should you be foolish enough to give it a try. Don't. And at 200, it will have more than 11 times the force! What's more, because the power requirement of a car grows with the cube of speed, this means it will need 37 times more power to go 200 mph than to maintain 60. It boggles the mind."

You do the math!

 

A Dodge Neon hit over 200Mph at the Texas Mile last weekend. It was friggin' funny as hell, a lot of Mustang and Vette drivers lost their swagger. He hits 198 at 16:50 in this video.