Driving a slow car fast is more fun than driving a fast car slow.

 

Insurance on a fox is not 200 a year even on a basic plan, I was paying over 400 every 6 for basic coverage living in a town with a population of 3,000 cheapest damn insurance ever. Even under my Dads name it was still 240$ every 6 and hes 65 and never had a ticket or an accident. A stock fox would keep up with an ST but it is also a 20+ year old car, a 3000$ fox would be a POS. Random electrical not working, leaks, gas hog, ect.

I am not arguing with you that a turbo is more reliable, in fact if you look a few post back I was the one stating that turbo-charged cars are not reliable, literally due to the fact of boost leaks and random small parts breaking. and constant little tune updates.

Although I would rather drive a newer (my 03 Lancer)turbo'd car than ever drive my Mustang. I also owned a Camaro Z28 another car you can pick up for 3-4K that would rape a Foxbody but that's whole another set of worries. Optisparks, spark plugs, transmissions, differentials, ect. Fact is a 25 year old 3000$ car that is a pony car is not going to be reliable.

 

The only good thing about Québec is cheap insurance since we have the no fault clause which means that your own insurance pays for your own damages we can't get sued. I totally agree on the POS and their rotten chassis, strut towers and so on. In an ideal scenario is to own a good DD and that problematic car to be used once in a while.

 

Ive had a few factory boosted cars (2 supercharged and 2 turbo). Both turbo cars it was a constant battle with boost leaks.. I guess the price you pay for modding them lol.. the supercharged ones were reliable though

 

Edmund's has a curb weight for the gti as 3034lbs. Just what I looked up not sure if its entirely accurate.

 

It would make sense 2dr,17s, manual, no sunroof, manual cloth seats

 

Our track is 330ft above sea level.

 

Best bang for the buck would be to cut some weight by going with i.e: lightweight battery, lightweight seats, some cf parts, lightweight wheels, remove spare, remove toolbox, removing of soundening, removing AC etc..but doing all this will make the car unsuitable as a DD. Doing that and throw all kinds of bolt ons and spraying some NOS might get you on PAR with ST-GTI but at that point might as well sell the car and start with something faster.

 

U seriously think it would take all that????[poke] the way u say it no focus owner should upgrade their car and just buy something faster but wait if they bought a mustang then might as well not upgrade that either and buy a ferrari...oh but wait they can get something faster..... my point is ppl that say buy something faster are pretty stupid.

 

So if everyone is running slow chqnces are on a good day he would be running 14s.

 

Its possible. Off stock tires and a good feel for the clutch I can see it happening. All he has is the filter and a canned tune. Probably a good tune would do it.

 

That is true of primary and secondary collectors. You can have too large or too small, too short or too long of either or both. Outside of that your cat-back just needs to be at least large enough to not cause a restriction.

We won't be beating any Camry's, but we might be relatively near a GTI.

I can think of many camry's we can beat. Yeah the v6 will be faster but with boltons and a tune it should be a lot closer.

 

Not if that quoted 14.3 1/4 mile time is accurate. It still wouldn't be close. I have an n/a mk3, it looks great, gets great gas mileage, and has enough power to move out of the way.

 

i/h/e/tune will get u high 14's for sure. I consider that a close race with a camry. 14.3 is one of the faster times for a camry, I would bet average person will be in the 14.5-14.8 area and if you can run high 14's it is definately a drivers race.

 

Why do I feel like I am always fighting someone about possible mk3 1/4 time.... we can run high 14s with the boltons mentioned, people dont give this car enough credit.

 

Forgive me for back-reading, I'm bored ... stupid rain.


You know as well as I, bench racing is the answer. You look at the 'post your dyno' and 'post your 1/4 miles times' threads and you don't see much activity. But you'll see thousands of people giving advice, virtually none of which proven or verifiable by themsleves.
As always, if you want an answer you have to just do it yourself.

My goal has always been 200whp. And as far as I'm aware, I'm the closest active member to that point with a zetec. I've said more than a few times that my last dyno is low compared to what the car is at now, but I can't back any of that up until I actually dyno. But a dyno now is just a waste because I have a few other things I want to do first.
But still, I'm pretty confident I can get there on what I have. Just need to get my tune right and I feel I'll find my missing HP.
FWIW, my dyno is now 4 years old and the last time I was at the track was 3 years ago. Lots has changed since then.


Far as any track times go, you can speculate all you want. But W/O knowing weight it's all moot. A guy who pulls everything they can almost always runs faster than a full weight car, but the same/similar MPH.

And then there's the 'well my buddy' guys. Just ignore those types of people.

 

Didn't miss a shift and had minimum wheel spin. Mazda Speed 3 ran a 15.4 and a intake/tuned st went high 14's. Drag racing isn't cookie cutter stuff. Many variables come into play is my point. Just because someone at Atco raceway runs a 14.9 in an mk3 doesn't mean the rest of the cars running 15.5 should, even with the same mods. Elevation, temperature, humidity, track prep, driver, etc. 9/10 times people don't run what they think they should. If you want a 14.9 just make sure to run at Atco.

 

I went ahead and moved the appropriate posts to the 200 WHP thread in the Drag Racing section.

I tried bringing exactly this up in post 79 of this thread, but no one seemed to notice. Its no different than using a different dyno for comparisons, or trying to say that my car has 'x' HP because someone with the same mods in another part of the country did a dyno run. It just doesn't work like that in real life.

 

Cant wait for cedarfalls raceway to open so I can go run some times and put an end to this. Only other mod will be st exhaust here shortly and i will be shooting for mid 15s. I know this car is faster then my friends bmw that ran 15.8 few years back.

 

I bet you this guy runs high 14s with his canned tune and drop in next time he runs it.

 

were you just running a tune and wet shot when you did your run?

 

I don't know about you, but I could not care less about speed in a straight line. If I did I would have bought a mustang. 200whp Focus in the California canyons sounds like a great day to me. Part of loving a car is the time required to both pay for and install parts. Gaining an appreciation for time, effort, and value. I didn't buy my focus because it's a reliable dd, even though it is. I bought because I'd wanted a focus for a long time and the mk3 was something of a dream car. It's no supercar. It's more fun than one though. At least to me. Built > bought.

 

Yeah. Second Gen auto.

 

New camry are all autos... idk about it being a drivers race. More like just a reaction time race

 

Looks like the camry can trap 100+ which means we would lose top end anyways.

 

^^^^^^ this

 

Far right is with a passenger.
As far as I can remember everything else was solo. Here's my car in warm muggy weather.

You can look up the DA on dragtimes.com they have all the weather data for the track on their website.

 

I guess I don't see but 1 run in those slips.
I don't see the Focus being classed as a "bike" and I'm not aware of racer #'s changing during an event.

 

I don't know why they put my car down as a bike, must be a tower error, but yes. I am #34.

 

vs those runs, I can see where other errors may have been made.

 

Such as?

 

well after reading what you posted (whodatxevg) I feel better about my 15.7 run and feel like aftr the tune and few more mods I should be right there with you and trying to set a new record for the mk3 [nutkick]

 

A nice tailwind on the 15 run.

How many times have you run that?
If it's only once, according to the scientific method you need a proof, or a couple more runs to back it up.

 

I have only two from that night.

Somewhere from that night I have a 15.1 run.

 

Found the 15.1 from that night.

 

Weight reduction makes a big difference, too.

Here's 160whp going into something that weighs 400lbs...

 

Apples and oranges.