[davyf3]

I just towed in a 2014 1.0 Ecoboost with 66,000 miles. The owner reported a knocking sound, so knowing the owner does not look after his cars well, I presumed the normal blocked oil pump resulting in big end failure, but when I removed the sump I found three teeth from the timing belt. As far as I can make out the car has never had any major work carried out.
I haven't dug any deeper as yet to see what exactly is going on.

I do know it's a sh1ty engine, but surely it's early for timing belt problems?

 

[Cobrajet67]

I don't know about timing gear issues on the 1.0 Ecoboost since it's a relatively rare engine. I would use the search bar to look thru the forum for any related posts if they exist.

 

[Concussion88]

I do know it's a sh1ty engine,

🤔 What makes you say that?

 

[Cobrajet67]

Other than being a little low on power the tiny 1.0L 3 cyl. is supposedly a pretty good engine. Ford continues to produce it and it's available in pretty much all markets in some compact vehicles. It won awards a couple of times.
davyf3 might be thinking about the slightly bigger 1.6L 4 cyl. that had engine fire issues(in the US at least, idk about the EU/UK) due to overheating from poor coolant circulation.

 

[davyf3]

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🤔 What makes you say that?

If you had ever stripped one of these engines you would know what I mean..

 

[Concussion88]

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If you had ever stripped one of these engines you would know what I mean..

I've never stripped one. What's wrong with it?

 

[davyf3]

Other than being a little low on power the tiny 1.0L 3 cyl. is supposedly a pretty good engine. Ford continues to produce it and it's available in pretty much all markets in some compact vehicles. It won awards a couple of times.
davyf3 might be thinking about the slightly bigger 1.6L 4 cyl. that had engine fire issues(in the US at least, idk about the EU/UK) due to overheating from poor coolant circulation.

No I am not talking about the 1.6 I am referring to the 3cyl 1.0 ecoboost with the ''wet'' timing belt. This Fiesta I am working at has 66,000 miles on it and having stripped it further I have found about ten teeth missing from the timing belt. Timing belts have run dry for years without giving any major problems (if maintained) so why did someone thing it was a good idea to run the belt in oil, to maintain one of these is very expensive, so often cheaper oils are used rather than the £50-60 for 5Ltr oil which must be used to avoid the belt packing up at a little over half of it's life.
When people buy a Ford with a ''wet'' belt ecoboost the importance and the expense of maintaining them is not emphasised.
Apart from all that they are the most awkward engine I have ever worked on and I have 50 years experience rebuilding engines.

 

[davyf3]

I've never stripped one. What's wrong with it?

No mater what part you need to strip some other part or parts will be in the way, jubilee clips facing the wrong way, bolts that are next to impossible to reach, the stupid idea of running the timing belt in oil and unless the very expensive correct oil is used the belt will break, the bottom pulley bolt needs to be tightened with a special tool called a torque multiplier, because these engines give so much trouble breaker yard charge an extortionate prices. I could go on....

 

[Cobrajet67]

No I am not talking about the 1.6 I am referring to the 3cyl 1.0 ecoboost with the ''wet'' timing belt. This Fiesta I am working at has 66,000 miles on it and having stripped it further I have found about ten teeth missing from the timing belt. Timing belts have run dry for years without giving any major problems (if maintained) so why did someone thing it was a good idea to run the belt in oil, to maintain one of these is very expensive, so often cheaper oils are used rather than the £50-60 for 5Ltr oil which must be used to avoid the belt packing up at a little over half of it's life.
When people buy a Ford with a ''wet'' belt ecoboost the importance and the expense of maintaining them is not emphasised.
Apart from all that they are the most awkward engine I have ever worked on and I have 50 years experience rebuilding engines.

I didn't know this about this engine. Thanks for the insight. Perhaps others with wet timing belt Ecoboosts will see this and know to do the proper upkeep on them.

 

[rpmc528]

No mater what part you need to strip some other part or parts will be in the way, jubilee clips facing the wrong way, bolts that are next to impossible to reach, the stupid idea of running the timing belt in oil and unless the very expensive correct oil is used the belt will break, the bottom pulley bolt needs to be tightened with a special tool called a torque multiplier, because these engines give so much trouble breaker yard charge an extortionate prices. I could go on....

have a 14 fiesta eco boost, got hit with a blown turbo diag from Ford, issue was lack of power/consistent random no starts (was too busy too diag myself) after a quote for 6k, I opted to do it myself, during the process found cyl 3 with coolant, either head gasket or it cracked on the exhaust side which is unfortunately common? Thankfully we have a ford dealership inthe company and they supplied me with the timing tools. Do Not Remove the Timing Belt without having the Tools to Realign Cams and Adjust Crank. Trust me I had the tools and my first go I was 180 out. But all said and done about 1k for basically full engine gasket and seal overhaul, 3 belts and a turbo(turbine shaft was way to wiggly), plus about 15 hours total of my time 🤦🏼‍♂️ Needless to say I haven’t even had the car a year and only out about 25k of well maintained miles on it, wet belts are not kind if not pampered consistently