Got Clutch?

 

I have two.

 

There's a ton of factors that go into these times, such as driver skill, heat, humidity, altitude, fuel used, what equipment they use...etc. I wouldn't read too much into the numbers. And the differences in the dct times could simply be chalked up to how many miles the car has (break in/learning curve) and what TSB's may have been completed by the time of the test.

 

One large factor:

Traction control will reduce the throttle if wheelspin is detected at launch.

 

Granny shifting, not double-clutching like you're supposed too...

Sorry, my inner F&F had to get out.

 

Okay Vin Diesel. LOL! I got it

 

How do you go from 7.4 seconds to 9.3 seconds? And no it's not DCT/manual thing since C&D also tested the DCT and got 7.6 seconds. Way too much of a spread, but leave it to Consumer Reports to get by far the slowest times.

Altitude. Pure and simply put.

 

Yeah maybe that too. Though most of these tests are done in the Detroit area where all the magazines are. Wonder where Consumer Reports does their road testing?

 

Does seem like a huge spread on times for what should be very similar cars. [scratch]

I've noticed some reviews are for SEL's while others are for Titaniums...

Not that they're putting down that much power, but there is a "launch mode" on DCT cars as I recall...[idea](http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=259249)

Some of it's probably driver and location, but I'm thinking if you did a plain full throttle start in an SEL with all seasons vs a launch assisted start in a Titanium with summer tires, that might explain some of the gap in times[race]

And now back to our regularly scheduled program...

 

If I use the "launch control" on typical Michigan pavement (which is to say, not the cleanest surface in the world) with my all seasons (and a couple mods worth a couple extra horsepower) I can get wheel spin through much of first. Certainly "too much" if you're actually trying to get a fast 0-60 time. This is of course with the traction control off.

I can get much better times with controlled throttle right off the line and giving it the beans once you're going a bit. I've clocked my 0-60 runs with my GPS, and it's not terribly accurate, but my average is right around 7.2 seconds.

I'll be curious to see how some good sticky tires will help.

 

$0.02 --> Conti DWS don't spin, but I drive like a grandma 90% of the time too. Suppose I can't be definitive on that. I still want to vote driver.

 

Not to plug my video but I floored it here with TC on, not punched it. No wheelspin. If I hit the gas faster it would have easily.

 

The latest issues of C&D, which pits the Focus against the Dart, notes that both cars had the traction control disabled while performing acceleration tests.

 

I've chirped the tires when shifting manually on 1st and 2nd gear with the DCT.

 

The DCT Focus I drove in Colorado for vacation in June of 2011 chirped 2nd gear more than once on WOT applications. Surprised me the first time so in the name of science tried to reproduce the result.[read]

 

Just got back from doing some acceleration runs. 6,900 miles on the car. 17" SEL premium wheels with stock ContiPro's.

I did it 3 times and got nearly 10 seconds each time. Why is this so much longer than the mid 7's measured by Car & Driver?

Traction control was off but I still got no tire chirp.

There's definitely a lag right off the line, due to 12B37 I think. But it's not 2.5 seconds worth. Tach redlined in 1st so I know it's not because the engine's not revving for some reason.

Anybody else ever tried a 0-60 run?

 

I need to ask, no debate, if you're using the OEM filter.

If so, that is where the majority of your lag is coming from. Everyone that has run my air filter in their car can attest to the throttle response fix afforded by using it.

Maybe I'll take mine out and see what I get...

 

is it the air filter or the other mods though? my throttle response is not that much different with the steeda, but i am using factory air holes, have not done matt or newmission mods yet

 

Interesting results. Obviously unofficial, just pulled off the stopwatch on my phone. Two runs in S, one in D. 90 degrees out, humidity near 50%, elevation approx 200 ft.

I saw 9.7 and 9.5 in S and 9.1 in D. The elevation change should have been near nil unless it's an optical illusion, but the faster run was on the return. I didn't bother with the TC, simply started the time when I mashed the Go pedal and stopped it at 60. Either way, I would say that we are comparable on times (removing the variables).

I never ran that test pre-tsb, but the only reason I can't imagine that causing the discrepancy is because it was strictly an electronic update, so the gearing remained the same. I have many dyno runs on my car, and the numbers are all similar to other Foci (as in curve), including the manual versions. Not saying anything conclusive, simply my opinion.

Someday I will run it down the local track and see what it posts on my slips.

@Dark- Even your setup should be comparable (strictly speaking of lag) to other SRI/CAI setups. There is a certain amount of bog that occurs on initial application, but nothing in comparison to the lag experienced by the OEM filter.

 

Interesting results. Obviously unofficial, just pulled off the stopwatch on my phone. Two runs in S, one in D. 90 degrees out, humidity near 50%, elevation approx 200 ft.

I saw 9.7 and 9.5 in S and 9.1 in D. The elevation change should have been near nil unless it's an optical illusion, but the faster run was on the return. I didn't bother with the TC, simply started the time when I mashed the Go pedal and stopped it at 60. Either way, I would say that we are comparable on times (removing the variables).

Agreed. My environmental conditions are similar. So why are we 2 seconds slower than Car & Driver???????

 

I will run my 0-60 later, I will just record video and see how long the video is.

 

Yeah, I just re-looked at the numbers. Pretty far off from my car, which is nearly putting the engine-rated power down at the wheels...

 

All I heard was 'Treachery is afoot...'

 

And launch control doesn't really do much for a launch. Placebo effect, maybe, but the majority of us whom have tried it out have pretty much agreed that it's just as quick (if not quicker) to just put the foot down without it.

 

Has anyone used the Torque App with the Bluetooth adapter and got a zero to sixty time.

 

I don't think you're doing something right if the "launch control" doesn't do anything for you...I'll spin the tires through most of first if I use it. I get quicker times without it, but only because I'm not breaking the tires loose all day long. This is of course with the awful all seasons, I'm sure if you have the proper sport tires it will actually have grip.

The only "mods" I have is fiddling with the air box a bit, a K&N filter and premium fuel. So mine shouldn't behave much differently then every other stock car.

 

Yeah, I have the PS3's...

 

That's pretty odd that I'm in the 7's based on averages from my GPS (and about the same with a stopwatch), and I have crappier tires.

I typically get the best results doing the launch mode, but not just flooring the accelerator. I give it roughly half throttle right off the bat and give it the beans once it's past 4K or so.

 

I did a video of my 0-60 then broke down the frames from the start to 60.
It helps explain some of the disparity I think, it depends on when you start counting, is it from throttle application or from when the speedo shows 0?

From my pressing the pedal to 60 is 8.79 seconds
From When the needle starts to move to 60 is 8.55 seconds.
from when the speedo says 0 to when it says 60 it is 8.28 seconds.

 

Man I'd love to see that video to see where your acceleration differs from mine. Particularly how much of a lag you have from throttle app. I'm still well over a second more than you.

 

It actually would make sense for the smaller sized wheel-sets making faster times considering the lesser weight. The handling package is designed more for cornering than for 0-60. And the stickier rubber doesn't help get the engine into it's RPM range either...

But 2 seconds still seems like a stretch to me...

 

Here's mine-
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=TGcqlSUvbdE&NR=1

 

lol, wasn't this faked?