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Yeah I don't need much, AC, Cruise and a decent radio are about all the requirements.....I do really like the leather in them but What does that only com on the titanium or something, I don't want to spend that much...at that point I'm getting an ST....or a Volt....



True...and I will.....



But not getting the DCT would alleviate all of that correct? What else would you recommend, just curious?
If you're OK with a manual transmission, I think you can wind up with a great car at a good price. Avoiding MyFordTouch would eliminate another source of potential frustration. And a test drive should tell you what you need to know about throttle response. The only negative about the manual gearbox is that that the engine spins considerably faster at highway speeds than it does with the DCT. Again, just something to observe during a test drive.

I will say that, other than the ongoing DCT/throttle response issues, my Focus has been pretty trouble-free. It's a much better highway trip car than I expected and a much worse around-town errand-runner.
 
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If you're OK with a manual transmission, I think you can wind up with a great car at a good price. Avoiding MyFordTouch would eliminate another source of potential frustration. And a test drive should tell you what you need to know about throttle response. The only negative about the manual gearbox is that that the engine spins considerably faster at highway speeds than it does with the DCT. Again, just something to observe during a test drive.

I will say that, other than the ongoing DCT/throttle response issues, my Focus has been pretty trouble-free. It's a much better highway trip car than I expected and a much worse around-town errand-runner.
I'm totally fine with a manual, actually I would probably prefer it....

how widespread are the DCT issues though? I mean is there a decent chance I get one that totally fine or is it something that will give me trouble eventually? I mean the idea of the DCT is cool, I know the VW ones are great, but I just don't know how the Ford one compare.....honestly though I'd rather just not have to worry. about it at all though....
 
I'm totally fine with a manual, actually I would probably prefer it....

how widespread are the DCT issues though? I mean is there a decent chance I get one that totally fine or is it something that will give me trouble eventually? I mean the idea of the DCT is cool, I know the VW ones are great, but I just don't know how the Ford one compare.....honestly though I'd rather just not have to worry. about it at all though....
The honest answer is that only Ford knows how widespread DCT issue are. There is a lot of complaining here, but of course this may not be the most-representative cross section of owners.

However, we do know that Ford has made a bunch of programming changes to the software that manages the DCT and is still making them, which says something. We also know that a number of clutches have become contaminated with oil because of leaking seals. There also seems to be a backlog in getting certain parts for DCT repair, which could be because there are a lot of repairs going on. And of course there are a number of owners here who have what seem to be real and obvious DCT problems that dealers just can't (or don't wanna) resolve.

The DCT is a bit of an orphan in the Ford service world. It's a new technology for Ford in North America and a new experience for dealers. It's a pretty small part of a Ford dealer's business, the service departments weren't trained very well, etc. creating a climate where all DCT behaviors are "normal" and getting a fix is frustrating. This is made worse because Ford's service departments are typically not industry-leasing in the first place.

VW does offer a lot of DCTs, but theirs differ from Ford's in one important aspect: VW uses a "wet" clutch (the clutch lives in fluid) while Ford uses dry. While dry clutches may be more efficient they typically have less torque capacity and are seemingly more prone to clutch chatter and the like.

On the good news side, the basic transmission part of Ford's DCT seems pretty bullet-proof and is almost maintenance free. We don't see many stories about total DCT failures. Symptoms of DCT misbehavior include: clutch chatter from a start, odd gear selection, grinding when shifting gears, clutch slippage and other stories you can read on this site. So the car is unlikely to strand you, but could become pretty unpleasant to drive.

All that said, your odds of getting a "good" DCT on a new Focus are pretty high, but still quite a bit less than 100%. The Focus transmission is a much higher risk than on an equivalent Honda, Toyota, Chevy or Hyundai I would guess. The rest of the car is so compellingly good that it's a risk worth considering, but I still advise friends to look elsewhere, at least if an automatic is needed.
 
Go to your dealership and have them locate one they will find one with what ever options / color you want they will pull up a few them you can either pay the 700$ destination fee or go to the dealership the car is located at that's what I did . Goodluck please please get a stick you won't regret it and you might regret the dct
 
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Go to your dealership and have them locate one they will find one with what ever options / color you want they will pull up a few them you can either pay the 700$ destination fee or go to the dealership the car is located at that's what I did . Goodluck please please get a stick you won't regret it and you might regret the dct
I'm pretty sure I found the car I want actually and its a stick....Right now I'm trying to do the math on a Volt though see if I can pull it off. Its a lot more money but the gas savings will offset the bigger payment. If it doesn't work though that Focus is mine..
 
Right now I'm trying to do the math on a Volt though see if I can pull it off.
Did you read this? If they had offered this 2 years ago, I would've considered getting a Volt.
 
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Did you read this? If they had offered this 2 years ago, I would've considered getting a Volt.
I have seen it, but even with the 5k off on the 12 I don't think I can get there. I need a used one at maybe 26 or 25. The tax credit is all fine and good, but you don't get it all if you don't pay that much in tax and you still finance that you just get a huge refund in April....

I asked a local guy how he likes his. His reply, "It sucks!"
Ok thats one person, I drove one for a week and it was great. I also have a friend that has one and he loves it too. Also its been the highest rated of any car in customer satisfaction ratings two years in a row now....so I'm going to say thats an anomaly....

Did he expound on why it sucks?
 
I also have a friend that has one and he loves it too. Also its been the highest rated of any car in customer satisfaction ratings two years on a row now....so I'm going to say thats an anomaly....
I have a coworker who loves his Volt.
 
I test drove a Volt at a Ride and Drive event at the Motortrend Auto Show. Before the test drive I was in love with the Volt. After the test drive, I was glad to get out of it! Felt VERY cramped inside. So much so that with just a drive around a couple city blocks, I was feeling very claustrophobic.
 
I test drove a Volt at a Ride and Drive event at the Motortrend Auto Show. Before the test drive I was in love with the Volt. After the test drive, I was glad to get out of it! Felt VERY cramped inside. So much so that with just a drive around a couple city blocks, I was feeling very claustrophobic.
I don't know how large you are or aren't, but that partially has me worried about a ~2100-2200 or so mile road trip in a Volt I have coming up in July to help my uncle move one of his cars across the country because paying for my vacation would be cheaper than hiring a company to trailer the car.

I've ridden in a volt before but haven't driven one. I've driven several cruzes though.
 
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