Some Power Steering Diagnosing Help needed for SVT - Some Power Steering Diagnosing Help needed for SVT - Update w/ pics
Ok so first the car.
2002 SVT Focus with 192,000 plus miles.
Fluid has never been changed for at least 100K.
3 Weeks ago the high pressure line cracked on me with the Original OEM Line. Broke where the port comes off the line for sensor. Started leaking while running errands. Didnt think too much of it besides wear and tear, northern car so corrosion and OEM line at 192K. Had to have it towed to local service shop cause I need a car for sales so had to get a rental and keep working and let someone do this for me.
Shop replaced the pump from Ford but local parts stores only had Edelmann; another Ford Disc part since 2009. Installed everything back together. All was good. Exactly one week and at least 200 miles the Line started leaking through the nut and down the center of the line. Thinking bad fittings and seals. Leaks like a mother! Had to get towed cause it emptied resevior immediately on the highway. Even bought fluid trying to top it off...Just leaked immediately and reservior was bone dry again by the time I got back on the highway....just a few minutes. 3K RPMs just blew it all out.
We get another Edelmann line under warranty and labor claim. Week later...same thing happens. This time almost 3 hours north of where I live on the way back to Jersey and PA. Hello another $175 tow and another rental. Drove through the night to get to Jersey. Been a long day.
Any chance the Rack is having a valve close or something causing way too much pressure between rack and high pressure line? Edelmann Tech Services think its bad seals. This will be the third line from Edelmann we are putting on the car; I'm to the point that they had a bad manufacturing run or something else is happening. Leak starts on the highway....but I spend most my time there. Rack and power steering feels great in city driving and parking and shopping...feels NEW since we put the new line and pump on. Then WHAMMY! At 3-4K RPMs and a few hundred miles and cycles it starts to leak and I have to pull over. In Florida...no stress on the rack on these highways so we find it hard to believe the rack is at fault or causing back pressure between rack and pump after 200-300 miles. Think if the rack was bad, its bad. Shouldnt need 200-300 miles for the rack to do something silly again. But for seals....200-300 miles is a 100 mile gap for a bad manufactured seal to go bad...consistently.
Going to order a Gates PS line as well now and have that shipped over. May just put that on instead versus another Edelmann line; at least have the tech inspect and see what he sees. Doing google searches and searches on forums....not too many hits for bad racks. And I would think that under city driving and parking loads the lines would leak from the rack...or the rack would show some signs of issues! 3-4K RPM load and highway driving; thinking the pump spinning at that RPM just keeps blowing the seals after a little while of driving.
What do yall recommend? Has anyone else had Edelmann line issues? Feel like start with a Gates Line...and if that goes...put in a new rack
UPDATE: Gates owns Edelmann....they may make the lines for both companies at the same plant. Going to order anyways to check. They do have different warranties so maybe they do source differently.
Ok so first the car.
2002 SVT Focus with 192,000 plus miles.
Fluid has never been changed for at least 100K.
3 Weeks ago the high pressure line cracked on me with the Original OEM Line. Broke where the port comes off the line for sensor. Started leaking while running errands. Didnt think too much of it besides wear and tear, northern car so corrosion and OEM line at 192K. Had to have it towed to local service shop cause I need a car for sales so had to get a rental and keep working and let someone do this for me.
Shop replaced the pump from Ford but local parts stores only had Edelmann; another Ford Disc part since 2009. Installed everything back together. All was good. Exactly one week and at least 200 miles the Line started leaking through the nut and down the center of the line. Thinking bad fittings and seals. Leaks like a mother! Had to get towed cause it emptied resevior immediately on the highway. Even bought fluid trying to top it off...Just leaked immediately and reservior was bone dry again by the time I got back on the highway....just a few minutes. 3K RPMs just blew it all out.
We get another Edelmann line under warranty and labor claim. Week later...same thing happens. This time almost 3 hours north of where I live on the way back to Jersey and PA. Hello another $175 tow and another rental. Drove through the night to get to Jersey. Been a long day.
Any chance the Rack is having a valve close or something causing way too much pressure between rack and high pressure line? Edelmann Tech Services think its bad seals. This will be the third line from Edelmann we are putting on the car; I'm to the point that they had a bad manufacturing run or something else is happening. Leak starts on the highway....but I spend most my time there. Rack and power steering feels great in city driving and parking and shopping...feels NEW since we put the new line and pump on. Then WHAMMY! At 3-4K RPMs and a few hundred miles and cycles it starts to leak and I have to pull over. In Florida...no stress on the rack on these highways so we find it hard to believe the rack is at fault or causing back pressure between rack and pump after 200-300 miles. Think if the rack was bad, its bad. Shouldnt need 200-300 miles for the rack to do something silly again. But for seals....200-300 miles is a 100 mile gap for a bad manufactured seal to go bad...consistently.
Going to order a Gates PS line as well now and have that shipped over. May just put that on instead versus another Edelmann line; at least have the tech inspect and see what he sees. Doing google searches and searches on forums....not too many hits for bad racks. And I would think that under city driving and parking loads the lines would leak from the rack...or the rack would show some signs of issues! 3-4K RPM load and highway driving; thinking the pump spinning at that RPM just keeps blowing the seals after a little while of driving.
What do yall recommend? Has anyone else had Edelmann line issues? Feel like start with a Gates Line...and if that goes...put in a new rack
UPDATE: Gates owns Edelmann....they may make the lines for both companies at the same plant. Going to order anyways to check. They do have different warranties so maybe they do source differently.
