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Discussion starter · #22 ·
A toe and/ or camber problem would cause, more or less, even wear around the entire circumference of the tire and localized to the inside or outside tread edge. If the tire was out of balance or if the shocks were bad, the wear could get wider or more pronounced in localized areas. A bad shock causes a cupping pattern around the circumference of the tread.

That said, and I'm taking a guess here, I think your problem is with the tires themselves. You either flat spotted them by locking up the brakes (only takes once) or the internal belts are separating (not as uncommon as it sounds). Either can cause the kind of wear you described. If the tires are relatively new I'd go back to the dealer for a tire inspection. Separating belts (aka de-lamination) can be determined by a visual inspection of both the inside and outside of the tire and is a warranty issue in most cases. Anyway, it sounds like you need to have them replaced.
 
ok i put it up on the lift and found that the flat spots are def. on the inside of the rear tires and they look really choppy, its only one spot on each tire but it looks like someone took a meat cleaver and just hacked it up, thanks for the help

knox
 
Castor, Camber And Toe-in/out

I was getting a little unsure what all these terms meant, particularly the CASTOR - so I did some digging on the internet and cut & pasted and added some notes to these diagrams: Hope this helps other like me! Seems like a small pic - if someone tells me how I will try and get a bigger pic posted. I think if you click the thumbnail you get a larger view.
 

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At least we don't have to worry about caster on our cars as there is no adjustment. Camber can be in the ballpark but like Geezer emphazised, toe is very critical.
 
Not from the factory. You have to buy aftermarket parts to adjust camber.
 
Just found and installed some camber plates. I'm a newb at autocross, but after some research they seemed like a good idea. I love the results..i'm set at -1.7 degrees front and -.8 rear. The handling improved signifigantly in the corners, but it is a little touchier on the highway. 3k miles later and no noticable difference in tire wear. They are basically just a steel plate that mounts to the top of your strut mount. You have to remove the mounting bolts from the upper strut plate and use the included bolts to mount the adjustable plate to the strut mount and car. Fun mod for autoxing, and pretty cheap if you DIY. Not a project for unexperienced though...compressed coil springs are no joke. Was gonna do the rear, but decided to go to the H&R coil kit first.
 
I've noticed on my 05 that the drivers rear is getting a lean to it. I checked over the bearing's and they seem good there's no play to it so what should I be looking at this thread has me intriged. Iam doing upgrades as things get worn and after reading alot of everyones post ( which by the way thanks to all ) I wondering where to be looking @ for the next mod so does anyone have any suggestionsfor me. I think I posted this in the right section and please feel free to backhand me if its not. Thanks again to any help thats offered because I will try it.
 
I have an 03 Focus SVT that I'm tired of buying tires for.
My problem, and I can't imagine I'm the only one with this problem, is excessive inside tire wear front & rear.
How can I fix this when the camber is fixed front & rear.
Is there something after market available.
After about 20K miles on new tires, I start getting alot of tire noise from the insides wearing.
 
Discussion starter · #36 ·
FINALLY ford got a clue.

all Focuses should be at 0.08-0.12 in...

While Ford is slowly acknowledging that their spec range is pretty broad, I think it is still so and prefer something even less.... like 0.04" (SVT or lowered) or 0.06" of rear toe-in for non-lowered cars......especially 00 to 05 year cars. But to answer the original question it could be a problem of both excessive toe and camber. And yes, knowing what the current settings helps in making a recommendation.
 
Phokus was that in degrees or inches? .08 degrees is about the same as .02 inches. I would recommend anywhere from .08-.12 degrees.
 
Discussion starter · #38 ·
Degrees or inches is definitely important. One other thing, conversion of degrees to inches is not as straight forward as might be implied above. You need to know where the toe angle is measured (the tire tread or the rim) and the overall diameter of the tire or rim. (formulas courtesy of the enginerds at miata.net)

Example: lets say the alignment results in .30 degrees of toe. And for sake of argument the tire is 24 inches in diameter on a 14 inch wheel:

For a toe angle measured at the tire tread:

.30x24/55(a constant)= .13"

if measured at the wheel:

.30x14/55= 0.08"

(results rounded)
 
About two years ago I went thru the tire thing on my 03 Sedan. After consulting with Geezer and Illinopo on how to correct it I bought two adjustable -1.5 tom+5 degree SPC rear control arms at $219.00 and had them installed for $50.00. We put the toe in the rear to as low as possible within specs which was about .15 degrees and kept the camber at -1.1.

My car stopped eating tires and handles great.

Before it was a death ride during the winter months or when the highway was wet.........the thing would hydroplane at 45 mph.

Thanks to Geezer and Illinopo........you stopped the bleeding for me.......

Steve
 
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