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Is this too close to the edge to patch? Screw is about 1-3/4" in from the outside edge of the sidewall. P195/65R15 91H on 2016 Focus S picked up a screw in the tire.

If it can't be patched I assume I have to get the same brand/model Conti Pro Contact (do all tires have to match brand/model when returning a lease)? Thank you! [:)]
 

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It's actually closer to the side wall that your measuring tape shows. Where the tire curves downward is the sidewall. It has to be greater than an inch from there. You can check with a tire shop.

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On the inside of the tire, the sidewall is roughly right where the screw is..

Check with whoever you leased the vehicle from to find out if all tires have to match.
 
That can easily be patched. I have a BFG on one of my broncos that has a patched hole in the sidewall. Just the *******es at walmart and what not won't patch it. Go to your good 'ole boy mechanic and they'll patch it.
I guess if you don't like your own safety patch it.

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Some of us are forced to live in the real world, I have patched so many holes in that location I cannot count and 90% of them never give any more trouble to the end of the tire. One just must not be an idiot in how you approach it.

My back entry drive is dirt and made up of construction waste from a half century ago plus, when it rains the runoff can expose as many as 100 old nails just in my back frontage alone. I was forced years ago to learn optimum tire patching and now down to a science, I no longer even remove the tires in most cases any longer. Tire road hazard warranties there mean countless hours waiting for the free tire fixes and I'm usually done with one in 3 minutes.

Give it some thought like with all other things, the people who tell you it is 'unsafe' are the ones selling you the tires, or closely connected to them. Or barring that uneducated as to what works fine in real life.

I often turn in old tires with up to 4 plugs in them and it freaks the tire guys out. The tires went on to get max life in most cases or suncracked to be declared dead early here in the Texas heat.

The unmentioned max issue there will be what has the OTHER END of the screw done as far as flexing around sideways when rolling over rocks, etc. to damage the true sidewall further up/out, and why leaving the screw in place is sheer stupidity, you remove them as soon as you see them unless you want a fatal catastrophic blowout. You at the least want to know how long that screw is.
 
AND, I have as well recovered a tire to full further mileage by patching in the sidewall well up the side but it's a pain and I don't commonly do it. Despite what the link company says it IS possible though. Mistake number one is saying the 'cords' don't go up the sidewalls, incorrect, there is just a lesser number of them than in the tread portion. ALL radials have cords of some type in the sidewalls, they form the side flexing style.

The tire companies don't patch because it costs them tire sales, duh. There are also legal liability issues there as well and all good Republicans fear those as the plague.
 
That can easily be patched. I have a BFG on one of my broncos that has a patched hole in the sidewall. Just the *******es at walmart and what not won't patch it. Go to your good 'ole boy mechanic and they'll patch it.
In some places, it's illegal to drive on a tire with damage to the sidewall because it risks the lives of everyone in the vehicle and everyone around them on the road.

There are also legal liability issues there as well and all good Republicans fear those as the plague.
What does being Republican have to do with following laws?

No company with any sense will allow a tire damaged in the same location, or on a sidewall to be repaired. Once the tire is "repaired", both the company and the employee are liable for anything that happens down the road until that tire is replaced.
 
'In some places, it's illegal to drive on a tire with damage to the sidewall because it risks the lives of everyone in the vehicle and everyone around them on the road.'

An assumption of course as you cannot prove that at all. How people get scared into things. You risk life to begin with by even getting into a NEW car. There as well are different levels of damage there.

BTDT, my cars run tire patched like that all day long and I have been the safety inspector or consultant at almost every place I've worked at. It has nothing to do with what one can imagine happening yet so much of our society is about instilling fear, more like what can happen under realistic circumstances. Even that is subject to conjecture, or ALL places would not allow that.

As far as my concern that is not in the sidewall anyway, unless the other end of screw is long enough and I already covered that. The devil like always is in the details.

I had to patch 40 times in the first year I moved to the present location, not one of them failed a tire suddenly. Neither have any of the other hundred plus I've done. ???????????

Maybe the way the work is approached? I am certainly no smarter than anyone else, therefor it is repeatable for someone else.

I have no problems driving my cars among others, those others likely have much more dangerous issues going than I.
 
Some of us are forced to live in the real world, I have patched so many holes in that location I cannot count and 90% of them never give any more trouble to the end of the tire. One just must not be an idiot in how you approach it.

My back entry drive is dirt and made up of construction waste from a half century ago plus, when it rains the runoff can expose as many as 100 old nails just in my back frontage alone. I was forced years ago to learn optimum tire patching and now down to a science, I no longer even remove the tires in most cases any longer. Tire road hazard warranties there mean countless hours waiting for the free tire fixes and I'm usually done with one in 3 minutes.

Give it some thought like with all other things, the people who tell you it is 'unsafe' are the ones selling you the tires, or closely connected to them. Or barring that uneducated as to what works fine in real life.

I often turn in old tires with up to 4 plugs in them and it freaks the tire guys out. The tires went on to get max life in most cases or suncracked to be declared dead early here in the Texas heat.

The unmentioned max issue there will be what has the OTHER END of the screw done as far as flexing around sideways when rolling over rocks, etc. to damage the true sidewall further up/out, and why leaving the screw in place is sheer stupidity, you remove them as soon as you see them unless you want a fatal catastrophic blowout. You at the least want to know how long that screw is.
This.
 
'What does being Republican have to do with following laws?'

What indeed, do you want the 500 page book?
Don't need the book. I can simply read the news and find evidence to the contrary. However, there's really no reason to bring politics into this, seeing as how this forum is about the Ford Focus and not politics.

'In some places, it's illegal to drive on a tire with damage to the sidewall because it risks the lives of everyone in the vehicle and everyone around them on the road.'

An assumption of course as you cannot prove that at all. How people get scared into things. You risk life to begin with by even getting into a NEW car. There as well are different levels of damage there.
You make too many assumptions as to what one can prove.

8. Any tire has a cut or puncture into the fabr
ic. This does not include a plug or
patch that may be used as a manner of repair.
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NOTE: Plugs/patches shall be in the tread area only. Plugs/patches are not
permitted in the sidewall of the tire.
9. Any tire is worn so that the fabric or steel cord is visi
ble.
10. Any tire has knots or bulges in its sidewalls or if there is evidence of a
broken belt under the tread, or if the tread is separating from the fabric. Any
cracks in the sidewall where separation in the rubber is detected or the fabric is
exposed,
not to include fine hairline cracks.
Doesn't copy/paste too well and I'm too lazy to fix it, but, straight from the manual.
 
You can do or find someone to do anything you want. Doesn't make it safe or legal. It's like you can drive on bald tires. Not safe or legal. People still do it.

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