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Outisde of power adders, what upgrades can I place into the car to increase its power and speed and how much will the engine increase in power and speed with those upgrades (I'm aware of exhaust and cold air intake upgrades but I'm not sure how much more power the engine will get)?

I've looked at all the threads in the SPI forum and I haven't found anything that really answers what I'm looking for. I can't afford anything beyond what I currently have in terms of a car so I'm trying to figure out whether its worth upgrading the power on the SPI engine.

Much appreciated.
 

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Well its best to start with the basics.

Such as the Intake/exhaust. Untill you get your car breathing right you will not see as much from the other mods. Now after the basics you could look into a underdrive pully and a tune.

I hope that helps.

Jon

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come on jon, you answered that question without a link to the goodies thread? your slippin man, your slippin

here ya go edisfres, i'll give you it since jon is just too lazy....

goodies list

on top of power bolt ons, you will also see quite an improvment in the handling department with some suspension upgrades
 

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I was looking at that earlier. Anyone have a link or reference that I can check out to see the extra output I will get on some of these "goodies"?
 

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crazy_urn said:
come on jon, you answered that question without a link to the goodies thread? your slippin man, your slippin
LOL

No slippage here, I actually read his post and he said he already looked at the SPI stuff.
[neener]

LOL

A new suspension will do you wonders, for your car the SVT upgrade option is available. Its a nice addition while keeping the stock ride comfort.

My biggest suggestion is STAY AWAY FROM COILOVERS!!
 

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focusin said:
LOL

No slippage here, I actually read his post and he said he already looked at the SPI stuff.
[neener]

LOL

A new suspension will do you wonders, for your car the SVT upgrade option is available. Its a nice addition while keeping the stock ride comfort.

My biggest suggestion is STAY AWAY FROM COILOVERS!!
actually read his post, ha! you cant fool me. your from alabama, you dont know how to read....

anyhows...
if you are looking for actual HP numbers, there is not a database, per se. most of the basic mods (intake, exhaust, UDP, etc.) will probably gain you a point or two each, which really does not sound like a whole lot. however, where you will feel the most gain is the tried and true butt dyno. there is no easy way to make our little SPI engine a quarter mile monster (or any other type of monster for that matter), but you can make it a bit more fun to drive. which i guess is really all you can ask out of an econobox.
 

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If I had it all to do over again, I would work on a turbo build from the get-go.

Are there warranty issues you are afraid of or something?

Anyways, if staying N/A, not one bolt on (except SCT tune) is worthwhile until you have alot of them. As said above, one or two won't do jacksquat for you, but in combination, they can make the car much more fun to drive.

Rusty
 

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patience is over rated.

winning the lotto is the key to a successful vehicle....
 

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you can see the list of parts on the bottom of what i got, and it made a improvement, if your going to keep your car for a while then it's worth while but if not then jsut get an airintake to help your mpg, the best improvement i noticed was the underdrive pulley, i want to get the x2 bad though.
 

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To increase my horse power from 110 to around 150 or 170, it would cost me about 3k in good parts. That's pathetic. For that kind of money, I might as well trade in my car for one that has V6.

It's sickening that my parents purposely bought me the slowest car with the weakest engine on the market :(
 

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^^yea dude, be happy you got a free car, and spi can be made into a beast if you do it right, i mean for me anything over 250whp on a 8v is mighty IMPRESSIVE!
 

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It's sickening that my parents purposely bought me the slowest car with the weakest engine on the market :(
Its sickening that you are being THAT ungrateful. I got my SPI purchased by my mom and then I took every payment after that. I managed to get a hell of a lot of work done to that car before I traded it in. I managed to surprise a hell of a lot of cars with it too biggest being a 03 eclipse and a 2001 celica GT both were stock but still and mine was a auto.


The point I am making is just b/c you have to work to get that car fast does not mean its not worth it.

BTW, if your parents are the ones who bought the car for you I would REALY like to see you go to a dealer that will give you ANY car. You have no credit therefore your stuck with it man.
 

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This is almost like gang rape lol.

I'm not saying I'm not grateful for my car so ya'll better watch it; sickening was probably the wrong term but don't get angry cause I'm saying the truth. For $11K, the 'rents (who ironically are the ones who complain about ford more than god to begin with) could've gotten a lot more for their money if they wanted to, even on a four cylinder. For such an economized engine, it still doesn't get the mileage or power that a civic, corolla, or an ion gets. Stock, the focus (SPI) is the slowest, least efficient and least upgradable of the three aformentioned car brands. It's not being ungrateful; its saying the truth.

$5-6K (all mods and turbo) on a ford focus engine will kill its life because its not supposed to be hooked up like that, as evidenced by the fact that you get close to zero extra output on the engine with those regular mods. Instead of paying $3K for all mods without turbo, I might as well trade in my car for $6K and dish out $3K to get something more worthwhile.

That is all I'm saying if I wanted to go get more speed. The SPI IS NOT worth upgrading for 30-50 hp unless I can do that for less than $500 or $1000, which I highly doubt I can. Many cars you can upgrade by 30-50 hp for about that price. If I can do that without destorying the engine, then prove me wrong; that's why I'm here. So far, I haven't seen that for the SPI.

Sorry.
 

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Here you go, SPI motor stock internals and running god knows how many miles still strong.

http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=84581


Heres what you DONT KNOW the SPI motor handels boost, nitrous, and all out power better than a corolla (older model b/c your not talking new with the 11 grand price range) civic and Ion.

So first you'd rather try to hook up some granny looking car like a corolla, a weak ass civic (the d series motors are notorious for slinging rods, trust me I already replaced 3 motors in a 94 EX) or a POS saturn that will more than likley break on ITS OWN with out you modding it?

While the SPI has been proven through the years of abuse all the way back to the early 90's escort GT and the boosted models in europe, not to mention my own heavy foot I think you may need to research before you decide whether or not this car is a good ride.

After all your still in school right, you got lots of learning to do.

BTW what do we need to watch out for?
 

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1. Saturns will not break down. My sister owns an 03 ION and it runs much better than my focus 03 SE and my eldest's sister's focus 02 SE. I ride about 3-5 miles a day. My sister drives about 25 miles a day in her ION and back to get to FAU. My other friend had a 1997 Saturn (don't remember the name of the model) with 170k miles on it and it didn't break down.

2. Don't even talk to me about an escort. The first car my parents owned in the US was a used escort GT back around 1995 or someshit and after 2-3 years, the car couldn't drive past 50 mph without the engine making violent eruption sounds in the or shutting down. My mom was the one who mostly drove the car, she does not have a heavy foot and she is meticulously in giving it regular maintenence at the dealerships.

3. Five of my friends have civics, mostly 98-00 and they all have countless mods, including two I know have turbo. Three that I know have +100 miles on theirs and they run fine without nasty engine sounds or problems from their accounts. On top of it, Honda Civics have been famous for their longetivity anyway so I shouldn't have to state that.

Corollas I don't know. Stock performance, the corolla has more horsepower and better mileage. As far as longetivity, I don't have much experience but my friend's dad owns a '93 corolla with 200k miles and it still runs, though they will be getting rid of it soon.

First hand experience from friends and my family tells me the focus will not last longer than saturn, civic, and corolla. Even if SPI does last longer than the engine the other cars I just mentioned (we could argue that all day), the SPI is still not meant to be hooked up because you get so little extra performence for so much money. The point is, for the amount of money that I'd put into the SPI I'd get too litte out of the engine while putting too much potential strain. The SPI already seems overworked on the Focus' SE frame, so I can only imagine what extra shit would do. The opportunity cost on hooking up a focus SPI is too high; I'm better off going SVT, Zetec (maybe?), or a 'stang for the amount of money I'd otherwise invest in modifying my SPI. That's the simple point I'm trying to make. Nothing else.
 

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Ok thats understandable, I do know the reputation of all hondas to be a good one my friend just has a heavy foot which manages to blow holes right out the front of the motor the rods need an upgrade. If you are going to trade your car (for another focus) I would highly suggest the Duratec the SVT is a GREAT car no dout but from what I gathered its a high maintence premuim fuel drinking car. The duratec is the new and so far the power plant with the most pontential. 136hp 134tq for the 2.0 and 151 hp and 140 something tq for the 2.3 if you dont mind driving another sedan (ST).

I had my SPI up to 84,000 miles I beat the hell out of it the whole time it eventually developed a transmission slip (due to not performing a regular maintnence) and a loose lifter which was no big deal I was just to lazy to torque it back. That car was dependable and a hell of alot of fun, I had a AEM Short ram Focus central race header, Magnaflow catback, Screamon deamon coil/wires and a SCT tune. All together I had more fun and learning experiance with that car than any car I worked on/ drove. So maybe you should not go and spend all the money on the SPI but I guarentee the SPI is depenable as long as the maintnance is done it will even stay dependable with boost.

Also the link I gave you is a escort maybe your mom got a lemon. [dunno]
 
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