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Hi all, new to this forum so forgive me if this has been discussed before. Im looking to purchase my first set of snow tires for my 15 se. Regret not doing it sooner because driving this thing in the snow is awful with all season tires. I'd like to have a dedicated set of 16 inch wheels for the tires. I'm having a hard time finding 16" Focus wheels in Michigan. Will 13+ fusion 16s fit? Does anyone have recomendations on tires for mostly highway driving? Car is a 5sp if that makes a difference. Thanks
 

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You'll find it less expensive for tires if you went with a 15" wheel. I believe that P195\65R15 is the equivalent to the stock size tire however in the winter it is beneficial to go with a narrower tire as it will track better through deep snow. Steel wheels are economical and stand up better through the winter conditions. Throw on some hubcaps if you want a better look.

I'm not sure where you are in Michigan but I see a lot of used MK3 Ford Focus winter tire packages in Southern Ontario on Kijiji.ca. You'd have the advantage of the strong USD.

If you want to avoid the cost of wheel sensor for your TPMS system you can disable TPMS in the BCM and enable the Deflation Detection System using Focccus and a modified ELM327 ODBC device. It works very well and you will not have a warning light on your gauge cluster (from lack of wheel sensors if you chose not to buy them).
 

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I am debating running steel wheels, possibly getting some from one of the local pick and pulls. Thanks for the input, it never occurred to me to go smaller than a 16". My gen 2 focus s had steel wheels and I could get awesome tires for $350
 

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I went with 15" steel wheels (195/65R15 Blizzak WS80) mainly because I couldn't find 16" hub caps at the time and I already had a set of 15" hub caps.

I was afraid that the slightly smaller diameter tires would negatively affect gas mileage - they did affect mileage, but it was slightly up, not down (perhaps they weight less than the 17" OEM wheels, or could be completely unrelated).

I got the package from Tire Rack with the TPMS sensors with the reprogramming device, however I couldn't get it to work, but I didn't have to do anything because the car did not get upset with the new sensors (nor when I put the regular tires back on). They also included a good set of lug nuts, which I'm now using on the regular wheels instead of the horrible OEM ones (had such a terrible time with them on my former Focus).
 

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I am debating running steel wheels, possibly getting some from one of the local pick and pulls. Thanks for the input, it never occurred to me to go smaller than a 16". My gen 2 focus s had steel wheels and I could get awesome tires for $350
I'm running Michelin X-Ice3 with steel wheels on my Focus. They are super quiet on the highway compared to others I have used in the past. I run Nokian
Hakkapelitta's on my Suburban and I'm really happy with them too. Both are rated very well by Consumer Reports.
 

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Welcome to the forum! You're doing the right thing by getting winter tires and mounting them on their own rims. It saves a ton of time and money compared to constantly remounting tires.

Another vote for WS80s in 195/65 R15 on Tire Rack steel rims. I didn't bother with TPMS though, so I have to ignore the light on my dashboard all winter and manually check my own tire pressure ::gasp:: I hear the X-Ice series of tires is better for longevity and highway driving, but I've run Blizzaks in 12" of snow without issue (WS70s on an Outback), so I'm a bit biased. Last winter, they didn't plow my street soon enough, so I was literally plowing it in my Focus...snow was flying everywhere and I could barely see out the windshield. She just kept on going :)
 

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WS-80s are garbage for anything except deep snow and there's better tires out there now for deep snow. They had an issue with sudden lateral break-away on ice. They're also super squirmy, soft, and don't last long at all. Bridgestone has recently released a new tire to replace the WS-80s this year to address the sudden break away issue the WS80s had.

The Goodyear Ultragrip Ice WRT is pretty good. They're much quieter and more compliant at highway speeds than you'd think a winter tire would be at. Probably my favorite winter tire.

A lot of people are toting the General Altimax Arctic 12s as one of the best winter tire for the money. They're rebranded versions of a tire that's only available in Europe (glav-something something frost.)
 

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Be careful with the lugnuts. Tire Rack sent me new lugnuts too but it's because the steel wheels use a different type. One uses the bulge type and the other uses the cone type. The documentation from Tire Rack said not to use them interchangeably. Amazon has some good choices to replace the stock ones.
 

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15 inch 205/65/15 biggest tire you can put on a base model and the smallest rim possible. I have a set for sale but no shipping i'm in NJ.
 

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Be careful with the lugnuts. Tire Rack sent me new lugnuts too but it's because the steel wheels use a different type. One uses the bulge type and the other uses the cone type. The documentation from Tire Rack said not to use them interchangeably. Amazon has some good choices to replace the stock ones.
Good to know. I wondered why they sent my a set of lug nuts even when I didn't order them though I didn't see a note about not using them with the stock wheels. I ordered a set from Amazon because I'm not going to use the factory ones - had of enough hassle with them on my former '02 Focus even though the new ones appear to be slightly better design (the "cap" wraps around part of the nut where there older ones did not, which allowed the caps to come off, which many of them eventually did), it's just stupid for them to be designed with "caps" in the first place.
 

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I run the Sumitomo ice edge on 15" steel wheels. They are great. I also ran the altimax arctic which were great as well.

I use the same lugs on stock wheel as I do on the steel.
 

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I run the Sumitomo ice edge on 15" steel wheels. They are great. I also ran the altimax arctic which were great as well.

I use the same lugs on stock wheel as I do on the steel.
I just ordered a set of the ice edge. Install this Monday!
 

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Anybody got any suggestions for all-weather tires that are geared for snow?

I live in Southern Maryland and make frequent trips to Frederick, Maryland.

So, in the winter time, when it rains here in Southern Maryland, it snows in Frederick. And if it snows in Southern Maryland, its a blizzard in Frederick.

Since I will not be driving in snow all the time, I am thinking about grabbing a set of all-weather tires geared for snow. Unless, you guys and gals think that I should get a set of winter only tires. I'm all ears for suggestions.

And do you all think I should stay with the factory 215/55R16 tire size or go with something a little narrower? Like, 205/55R16?

Thanks,

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Anybody got any suggestions for all-weather tires that are geared for snow?

I live in Southern Maryland and make frequent trips to Frederick, Maryland.

So, in the winter time, when it rains here in Southern Maryland, it snows in Frederick. And if it snows in Southern Maryland, its a blizzard in Frederick.

Since I will not be driving in snow all the time, I am thinking about grabbing a set of all-weather tires geared for snow. Unless, you guys and gals think that I should get a set of winter only tires. I'm all ears for suggestions.

And do you all think I should stay with the factory 215/55R16 tire size or go with something a little narrower? Like, 205/55R16?

Thanks,

Lord Snax
Having winter tires is not just about driving in the snow but rather driving in colder temperatures. All-season tires lose they effectiveness at temperatures colder than 45 degrees Fahrenheit as the rubber becomes too hard and is not as pliable. Winter tires have different rubber compounds that are softer and more pliable. This allows you to start, corner and stop better. They are also designed with tread patterns that handle ice and snow better but I think you knew this already. If the temperatures through the winter where you are driving are below 45 degrees I'd recommend going with a winter tire and in your case one that handles ice well.

I personally run Michelin X-ice 3 on my Focus and Nokian Hakkapeliitta on my Suburban. Both are good but I prefer the Nokian but the Michelin's were a good buy and are decent. Both are very quiet compared to other snow tires I've run in the past (Hankook, Firestone, General Tire)
 

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Having winter tires is not just about driving in the snow but rather driving in colder temperatures. All-season tires lose they effectiveness at temperatures colder than 45 degrees Fahrenheit as the rubber becomes too hard and is not as pliable. Winter tires have different rubber compounds that are softer and more pliable. This allows you to start, corner and stop better. They are also designed with tread patterns that handle ice and snow better but I think you knew this already. If the temperatures through the winter where you are driving are below 45 degrees I'd recommend going with a winter tire and in your case one that handles ice well.

I personally run Michelin X-ice 3 on my Focus and Nokian Hakkapeliitta on my Suburban. Both are good but I prefer the Nokian but the Michelin's were a good buy and are decent. Both are very quiet compared to other snow tires I've run in the past (Hankook, Firestone, General Tire)
That's not true with all season tires. That's summer tires. I run ultra high-performance summer tires on one of my vehicles below 40 degrees they become hard. All season tires don't do that. They even make all-weather tires now it's a all-season tire that is geared to people that may have to deal with just a few snow storms a year. I live in the Southeast running a snow tire through the winter would be a bad idea because yes it can get to zero degrees, but the next week it could be 70-plus degrees.



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Anybody got any suggestions for all-weather tires that are geared for snow?



I live in Southern Maryland and make frequent trips to Frederick, Maryland.



So, in the winter time, when it rains here in Southern Maryland, it snows in Frederick. And if it snows in Southern Maryland, its a blizzard in Frederick.



Since I will not be driving in snow all the time, I am thinking about grabbing a set of all-weather tires geared for snow. Unless, you guys and gals think that I should get a set of winter only tires. I'm all ears for suggestions.



And do you all think I should stay with the factory 215/55R16 tire size or go with something a little narrower? Like, 205/55R16?



Thanks,



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The vredestein quatrac 5, or quatrac pro is a great tire all-weather tire. Narrow tires do better in the snow.

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Anybody got any suggestions for all-weather tires that are geared for snow?

I live in Southern Maryland and make frequent trips to Frederick, Maryland.

So, in the winter time, when it rains here in Southern Maryland, it snows in Frederick. And if it snows in Southern Maryland, its a blizzard in Frederick.

Since I will not be driving in snow all the time, I am thinking about grabbing a set of all-weather tires geared for snow. Unless, you guys and gals think that I should get a set of winter only tires. I'm all ears for suggestions.

And do you all think I should stay with the factory 215/55R16 tire size or go with something a little narrower? Like, 205/55R16?

Thanks,

Lord Snax
I haven't heard anything bad of any all-weather tires currently released in North America (for those that don't know, all-weather tires are not the same as all-season tires and have the 3PMS rating).
 
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