alright so now that we know what the new 3 looks like how long do you think it will be till we start seeing illegally obtained cameraphone pics of the new Focus design and possible artists renderings and test mules or the car in camo? If the car is slated for 2011(correct?) then it shouldn't be too long before we start to see some stuff. That's usually the way these things go so i'd say maybe towards the end of december or maybe in January... If that's too soon then I would expect something to come out sometime in the first half of 09. So that's my prediction, at the earliest, late this month, and at the latest, around august of 09 or so.... or anytime in between. If not between those times I would find that kind of strange and dissapointing. This is a popular car and most popular cars get hyped way in advance, at least a year... shoot, look at the camaro. I know, it's the camaro, but still I think the focus deserves a lot of attention too. Fords balls are on the line here and the focus, along with the new fiesta, are going to have to be amazing because they will be key to Ford's survival in the near future. So what do you guys think? IDK, maybe I'm wrong. Let the discussion begin.