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As with the other manufacturers, I am here for your Vortech questions. I will try to answer all the questions, but I can't spend all my time on one forum. If you have any urgent issues, you can email me direct. We are currently looking for ZX3 cars to test on. We currently have released LFQ0 and will have LFQ1 shortly. We need any other box codes!!! THis is only on 2.0L motors, we will have the 2.3 and SVT later. We are willing to give a discount on the system, plus a free install. We will need the car for 3-4 weeks and you can only get the aftercooled system. Vortech is in Ventura County, California. To find your computer code, look on the passenger side door jam in the front where the hinge is. The vehicles must be stock! The Focus must have no engine mods, cold air intakes, header, etc. A cat back is OK and the front clip (bumper) must be stock. If your are interested and close to SoCal, please email me your box code and model year. Also keep in mind that our system is 50-State smog legal under CARB EO# D-213-20. For the H.O. news release clickhere.
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Steve Padfield
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Vortech Engineering, LLC
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i don't live near SoCal but how much is the discount on the system?
 

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Mr. Padfield, since the other thread was erased I wanna ask why do you assume that the focus can only take 60hp while your Civic Si kit gives up 117hp, engine wise the focus can handle 117hp more from what other manufacturers of forced induction systems. The Honda Civic has nototriously weak axles that may break from you kit yet the focus has one that would handle 300+ why not up the power. Seems like the R&D into the kit was half assed from the consumer standpoint leaving more work for the customer to do.

For comparison HKS has a turbo focus taht has been out since just about the introduction of the focus to the US and it is running something like 250hp in the car with a stock motor. Ans no this is not a 16 year old just recently finding out about the car from Focus Fanatic magazine I've know about the car from its inception and was amazed to see that it has lasted this long with that much power, but that should just be more initiative to other manufacturers such as Vortech to give the kit a little more power. Considering the time everyone has waited for the kit, seems to me that it was "to little to late".

As for the kit itself, considering the battery has to be moved you should think about including a bettery relocation kit with your next release of it if there is one, also maybe sell the kit seperately now for those who support your product and have/will purchase it.


Tom, I ask that you leave the comaprison of all out power from this because it will always favor the turbo, 500hp seems to be much out of the common custoemrs price range any way, for comparisons sake lets leave 300hp to be the top end mark considering your system is stated to have 230 something at the wheels (If I remember correctly).

And for Mr. Padfield, having a carb eo number is nice but the fact that Ford screwed the design of the focus exhaust should not be a burden placed on the people developing turbo systems for the Focus, if ford would adopt a similar system to the on the SVT with the catalytic covnerter in the engien to give space for a turbo and manifold I sure there woudl be at least one or two turbo kits with Carb eo # making them street legal. Also some states are more tollereable of tuners vs. California and if there is a cat some where working on the car and it can pass the emisions sniffer the car is fine.
 

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Forced I have lost ALL respect for Vortec and have worked with Vortec cars and Mark Ray for years and More Performance with the Chevy stuff and have allways thought they were top of the line when it came to blowers but every time some one asks you questions you dont like you whine to the powers to be and have the post ERASED ,, You did it here and on the Jet

You said ,,"If you want to see power look at the dyno of CFM " i did and commented on it ,But like thay say the truth hurts

If you cannot take the bad with the good you have no place in any Forum

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Can i get my question answered though please.... would be nice to have head of marketing answer question to the doubting public to make them want the system.
 

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Forced I have lost ALL respect for Vortec and have worked with Vortec cars and Mark Ray for years and More Performance with the Chevy stuff and have allways thought they were top of the line when it came to blowers but every time some one asks you questions you dont like you whine to the powers to be and have the post ERASED ,, You did it here and on the Jet

You said ,,"If you want to see power look at the dyno of CFM " i did and commented on it ,But like thay say the truth hurts

If you cannot take the bad with the good you have no place in any Forum

Tom
Tom, I really have been avoiding getting involved but I believe you're actions are affecting my business and Vortech's reputation to prospective supercharger buyers... Why you ask? Because I am a distributor for Vortech and your tactics are making it difficult to sell the product due to your constant battle to try to force these guys to buy your kit. Funny thing is that most will eventually get frustrated or confused and will end up buying a JRSC anyway. You do have many valid points and your experience shows but I think you're taking that ability a little further by trying to make a legitimate company like Vortech look bad or misrepresenting. (Kinda like a lawyer can make a killer look like a nice guy in my eyes)

As for the power I'm currently making on my car... I am well aware that I will never make as much power as I could with a turbo but that was my decision for now. Maybe someday I will use a turbo instead. I think it should be clear to everyone who knows what they're talking about that the Vortech has not been out long enough to really start knocking it down because of Vortech's conservative output numbers. Only time and testing will really determine the full potential of the Vortech on a stock/modified Zetec. There a different reasons why someone would choose a supercharger over a turbo or vice versa and I would hope that when they do make that decision they fully understand why they made the choice.

Business is business...

BTW, I think you're a super guy and really enjoyed talking to you at the couple of FFW this year! I sure hope this is not blown out of proportion!
 

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Can i get my question answered though please.... would be nice to have head of marketing answer question to the doubting public to make them want the system.
Once I get setup with the Superchips Custom chip program I will guarantee you better power results than Vortech's claims. If not the installation will be FREE!!
 

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Um sorry i dont know your name but thanks man, unforetunately even the moderate power of the vortech isnt for my car at the moment i need to upgrade my automatic for any real power, if it is possible to put up with the power with just raised line pressure and new bands or whatever they are called i might look into it about jan or feb, I do appreciate you coming on the forum though. Nice to see some dealers/distributors get involved, and trust that regardless if you just defend your self or post a lot on here it will be appreciated and recommendations will come even if business with you is not conducted for awhile. Just for the fact that you get involved with your potential customers.
 

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Thanks for the welcome! My name is Hector. Unfortunately, it is very hard for me to spend much time on the forums but you're always welcome to e-mail me at [email protected] or call 407-339-9211. I think your best bet right now would be to call the different companies working on the autos such as Performance Automatics, Lentech, Level 10 and any others and get their opinion as to what mods can be made to it so that it can handle the extra power withouth investing on a full race trans.
 

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Wow...the mention of "free install" and the attitude changed a little, but that wouldn't change the numbers. I'd like to see the Vortech on a car with a few mods to see the real potential here, and I can't wait to see ya'll pick it up a little on our Foci. All the SC brands need to ignite a few flames under their tails and get to work on our ever growing market. Thanks for stopping by Hector. I'll be in the market in a few months, but it'll take some improvements on all the SC systems before I make my choice and purchase.
 

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Not really the install i could proly do that myself, I am more concerned about the more power. And the fact that he is getting involved.
 

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You wont see any improvements on the current line of superchargers in the next coming months... why? Because they don't need improvement. You need to make the improvements on your vehicle (intake, exhaust, and tuning) if you want to make more power than advertised.
 

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Anyone find it funny the F trim isnt even decribed on their website - they must have high hopes for it LOL - no wondering its a jit kit compared to even the SI kit they decicded to test and new unit with the focus.
 

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Hector ,I dont feel every one is talking about what i am saying as much as talking about the low power levels

My coments about the 8000 invested to make 240 Hp as i said in the post was NOT pointed at you or the great work i feel you do you did what you could with what you had to work with

I do feel like you said there is more to get out of it but at what point does it run out of its efficiency and start pumping super heated air ,,I asked him this and he has yet to answer altho i did get a 500HP ,And there is NO way that blower in that trim will ever see 500

Buisness is buisness and i do hope we are still friends ,,I in no way ment to step on your toes my frustration is pointed at vortech

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Well this thread is going nowhere. I'll sum it all up for everyone. If you want a speed racer Focus, get Toms turbo kit. If you want a street driven focus, get a Vortech or other SC. No matter what you get, you will be paying up the ass for it (its not even remotely cheap). Any car can be made to go faster, some just cost less than others to make this happen. Unfortunately the Focus is not one of them.
 
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Mr. Padfield, since the other thread was erased I wanna ask why do you assume that the focus can only take 60hp while your Civic Si kit gives up 117hp, engine wise the focus can handle 117hp more from what other manufacturers of forced induction systems.
This is a real simple answer. A Honda Civic is a LEV emissions level car, while a Focus is a ULEV emissions level. Developing a SC kit, you have twice the hydrocarbon limit on a LEV vehicle to play with than a ULEV. To obtain a E.O. number for a Focus, the kit has to be much cleaner and offer less as far as horsepower gains.
 

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Maruader, don't know if you saw the other thread before some how I deleted it while posting (wierd stuff, still dont get it, admin put it back up if its really my fault i dont know what i was doing and i wasnt typing on the first post anyhow) but he claims the power is due to the fact that the focus cannot handle the power nothign about the ULEV rating of the car. And just to put that to death they measure the car at a cold start and idling, unless there is like a 3 cm pulley on the thing to make made boost at idle really doesnt matter. That plus the fact that none of the egr and other emissions equiptment was touched is what the CARb EO # is given for. Unless your someone from Vortech that can tell me they tested them differently from every other equiptment manufacturer and car manufacturer in the country that is not the reason.
 
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