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Saw the cruise thing mentioned again today, the covid was active still 17 days later. The other one said 19, take your pick. I wonder if it was in water or something. The virus is supposed to shrink back into its' protein coat when it dries.

Don't like the sound of that.
 

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Well then, buy big-pharma stocks when it goes low again (if ever), maybe after the next wave of profit-taking by the rich guys who are occasionally driving the market up temporarily. Jump on the fiat-money train.
 

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Yes, we are proving to have the dumbest kind of socialism. The 2-trillion dollar fiat-money package will help keep the economy afloat a little, but simply waiting for enough people to die, while waiting for a "cure" (vaccine or universally effective treatment) won't be enough to stop US from becoming an international pariah-nation, like Italy, for a long time. Mind-sets have to change, or die an ugly death... people need to stop expecting they deserve to have MORE all the time, and stop thinking "bigger is better".

I'd like to see our lawmakers be more clever, and make airplane companies, like Boeing, retrofit all their aircraft with virus-grade recirculating filters in order to qualify to receive stimulus money... then make airlines fly with half-full, staggered seat assignments (no one in front, or behind, or right next to you) AND test everybody before they board. This isn't the LAST virus that will rise up, and those procedures will come in handy again. Could reduce airline travel to saner levels, people won't fly so casually, and that will aid the environment.

I don't hold out much hope of attaching conditions to bailout money, after seeing how they handled the bank bailout, and how they are proceeding now, by simply throwing wads of cash at everything. (IMO, cruise ships should just become a thing of the past, they have always been environmental disasters anyway... let them get small or fail.) I guess sports, concerts, etc, will be forced to wait for a "cure (not happy about that, I'm already missing my favorite sports... Baseball and March Madness... hoping to enjoy Football by fall, but I doubt it).
 

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From a more realistic point of view because none of those things are going away ever. Airplanes will fly fully loaded and cruise ships will fill the seas people are addicted to cruise ships.

We would not be in this financial mess if people would take the advice of people like David Ramsey, Suze orman and Clark Howard. If people had put money away in a emergency fund/rainy day fund people would be able to pay their expenses.
You should have at least six months put away for living expenses I know this isn't possible for everybody. But anybody who went on a vacation, bought a expensive house, had granite countertops put in, bought a new Yukon Denali could have saved money for the future. I really do hate it for the restaurant industry but let's be honest there's too many restaurants, and they are one of the number one contributors of people spending money they shouldn't spend.


Let's just imagine for one second this never goes away which it will, or we will find a solution. The world would eventually say people have to go back to normal life, and whoever doesn't make it doesn't make it. I promise you that's exactly what would happen if this doesn't end, and every single country would be on board with it at some point. The world is not going to allow itself to completely collapse to preserve a portion of life never has and never will. Obviously this is not what any of us want.

We will get through this and this will end, it will be a mark on history, and hopefully we learn from it. Try and be as positive as you can being negative only harms your life even more.

I truly believe life will go back to normal I really do. We have to find a medical solution to either treat it or prevent it. Once we do it will just be another thing humanity has conquered.



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it also seems like a lot of potential diseases maybe even this one they're not sure yet come from these wet markets so here's a simple solution get rid of the wet markets.
like I said they are not a hundred percent sure but there is a possible idea that maybe it did come from that, but it's definite that we have gotten diseases from our relationship with mass slaughter of animals.







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Sure, but "back to normal" will be different than it was. Many people will be more isolated, more suspicious, more judgmental, less solvent.

The formula of "people vs nature" is and always has been an absolute ultimate fail. We will never conquer nature, because we need it. We can not kill the thing that keeps us alive, unless we are actively trying to die off. Nature is evolution, and builds new things all the time (throughout the history of this 'Goldilocks' planet), in order to exploit new or existing environments in new ways. New viruses with new strategies will be created at an accelerating rate, based on opportunity. The more people there are, the more we become the favored target of microbiota... and we can never rid ourselves of microbiota, because we need it to eat.
 
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