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I was talking with another member here about buying his SVT HIDs. I'm new to the headlight game, though, outside of Ebay. Before I'd never really considered SVT HIDs, because ordinarily they cost PLENTY more than I'm willing to spend.

Anyways, long story short, I've got a few questions...

First a quick question about HID lighting. Are all SVT lights HID? Then, some general hardware questions. These lights are used. Most of the plastic clips are broken. As far as I know, the headlights ar eheld in place by three screws. I'm not sure (have yet to ask this) but I really doubt he's talking about the 3 holes for the screws that hold the actual housing in. He said that broken plastic clips are common, and I don't see a lot of people with SVT lights dangling from their car... Is it important to have the palstic clips? If they are not the 3 screws that hold the lights in place, what do they do for the light? My last question is about the lights themselves. Another reason the lights are much cheaper than your average Mach/SVT HIDs is because they have one missing bulb and need one new igniter. A bulb install, I'd imagine I could take care of, no problem. The igniter, though, could be some work. Is it easy to install a new igniter and bulb on the SVT headlights?

Thanks for the help, really looking forward to getting rid of my stock lights, but I'm having a damned hard time finding anything that really clicks as a good deal, and good headlights...
 

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Not all SVT headlights are HID...only the EAP SVTFs had the HID lights, in addition to the Mach Audio ZTS. There are normal headlights that came on SVTs without the EAP,they're black where the normal ones are chrome/gray.

What you're thinking of when you say "igniter" is "ballast." Ballasts are relatively cheap in the world of HID, however, I'm not sure if you could just take any ballast and splice it into the system, you might need the OE Hella/Ford part to replace it and that could be expensive, especially since you'd almost have to go to the dealer for a replacement. Generally ballasts are cheap (~$40) but if you're getting it from the dealer I'm sure it'll be more.

As far as bulbs...if its the xenon bulb that's missing you're going to be looking at $75 (ballpark) for a replacement, assuming you can find a place that will sell you a single 4300K D2S bulb. You'd probably be better off getting a new set of bulbs and replace both at the same time, plus that way you could get a different color bulb (I'm partial to 5000K bulbs myself...they're whiter/brighter than the OEM 4300K bulbs that come with the SVT HIDs) if you so desire. Otherwise there's three other bulbs in the headlight; a normal halogen highbeam, a turn signal lamp and a sidemarker lamp. If any of those are missing you're looking at $5-20 for a replacement, however if you're getting the lights for a deal I'd imagine its the xenon bulb that's burned out since they're so expensive.

Define what he means by "most" of the tabs being broken off? I'd be hesitant if its missing more than one on each lamp, which I would assume they are. If all three are broken off of either I probably wouldn't buy them...while they aren't going to fly out of the car if not bolted in, at the same time the light is going to bounce all over the place if the lamp isn't secure.
 

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Not all SVT headlights are HID...only the EAP SVTFs had the HID lights, in addition to the Mach Audio ZTS. There are normal headlights that came on SVTs without the EAP,they're black where the normal ones are chrome/gray.
I am sorry, but this information is incorrect. HID's came on the Mach Audio, SVT w/ European Appearance Package, and as an option on 03/04 non EAP SVT's.
 

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So, are the ballasts real easy to swap out? I don't have much car modding experience, but I installed my radio and new mirrors with no problems, including wiring my mirror turn signals into my side markers. I also installed a cabin air filter (hardcore, eh?). Those are very light mods, but should give some idea of what level I'm at...

With the deal I'd be getting, I could deal with replacing a few bulbs, even if it was with dealership costs... I asked the seller whether the lights were HID or not. Honestly, as cool as HID would be, I could live without it. He does refer to them as SVT/Mach HIDs, though. I also confirmed that the only defects were a broken ballast/igniter and burned out light, in addition to the tabs. I asked for pictures to confirm that they're still in good shape, and a count on which tabs were broken. I also asked him to double check that the wiring and lenses are in good condition.



I'm pretty sure, also, that these are not the SVT lights that are just black versions of the stock ones. I got that image from ford's site, and as I recall, those were the same that he had. I'm gonna double check that too... Just to clarify, though. Are those ones always HID?

Are there any things to watch out for, with the SVT lights in particular? As far as I know, they are pretty nice, even light throw wise. I'm going to ask him to insure the package, for sure. And also, nothing personal to the seller, but this is the internet, bad things to happen... Is there any way (with paypal) that I could make this transaction safer for me, incase he ends up a Wenzel?

Thanks again for the help, I'm so damned excited to get these!
 

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The lamps you posted are the HID lamps.

Not too sure on the tabs being broken, but I'd rather have ALL of them intact because the HID's are MUCH brighter than the halogens and need to be aimed perfectly or you WILL get flashed by oncomming traffic. The broken tabs won't keep the lamp from bouncing.
 

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I am sorry, but this information is incorrect. HID's came on the Mach Audio, SVT w/ European Appearance Package, and as an option on 03/04 non EAP SVT's.

Isn't this what the other guy already said in the first place??
 

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The lamps you posted are the HID lamps.

Not too sure on the tabs being broken, but I'd rather have ALL of them intact because the HID's are MUCH brighter than the halogens and need to be aimed perfectly or you WILL get flashed by oncomming traffic. The broken tabs won't keep the lamp from bouncing.
Very good point... Think if I made 2 really tight it would work? Is there any alternative solutions, or workarounds for broken tabs? I will not be doing anything with my stock headlamps, I'm not sure how it's all connected together, but would it be possible to salvage some clips and attach em? I'm pretty open to most jerry rigging, as long as it doesn't show on the outside...
 

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maybe u could fab up something to fix the last broken clip that way all will hold down the lamp and you wont have any troubles, tahts what id do
 

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InfraRedHB said:
Isn't this what the other guy already said in the first place??
No, he said....

Frogman283 said:
Not all SVT headlights are HID...only the EAP SVTFs had the HID lights, in addition to the Mach Audio ZTS. There are normal headlights that came on SVTs without the EAP,they're black where the normal ones are chrome/gray.
He is saying that only the EAP SVTF and Mach had the HID's, which is incorrect. They were an available option on some non EAP 2003/2004 SVTF's.
 

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Goddamn...why don't you crucify me a little more? Excuse me for being mistaken...how many times do you have to post a correction?
 

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I read the post by Frogman283 and was going to post what RedSVT03 did... I have an SVT with HID's as the only option.

Now as for a fix to the broken tabs... not too sure what they look like because I never removed my headlights, but maybe you could find a shop that can weld plastic and have them put them back on.
 

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Ebay is your friend. As far as the ignitor and bulbs go you can find these parts very cheap on ebay. I picked up a brand new set of Osram Xenarcs for like $45. Which is $30 less than what Frogman came up with and they work just as well if not better than any other HIDs that i've seen. Ignitor I just saw one there for $50. As far as the clips go, if it's the ones used to hold the HID in place, you'd need to fabricate something otherwise there will be some jumpy lights. All that is easy as pie to replace: open back cover, turn ignitor counter-clockwise, remove wire, release bulb spring clip and your done with both. The ballast is a tad harder but not difficult by any means: unscrew from under the housing and start disconnecting wires. Any other help just ask.
 

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Goddamn...why don't you crucify me a little more? Excuse me for being mistaken...how many times do you have to post a correction?
There was no crucification. Just a clarification. You simply had your facts a little messed up. No need to get your panties in a twist. Take it as a learning experience.

If I was going to crucify you, I would say something about the spelling mistake in your sig.[:)]
 

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Update on this:
Loving it! Got some pictures of them (good seller, got me plenty) and they appear to be in very, very nice condition for used.

First, and most important update, is the broken tabs. On each light, only the top tab is broken. I'm assuming 2/3 and a zip tie or two should be enough to hold em as steady as new... Right? Apparently I was a little wrong about what was broken, also.

"the part that is missing is the igniter(plus 1 low beam bulb and the rear caps like i mentioned before)"











I'm seeing no problems at all. Is a set of missing rear caps a big deal? Could I just mask over it with electrical tape or something?

Still hoping this turns out, and I get some sexah SVT lights...
 

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I'd be very concerned about the rear caps...without them the inside of the light is going to be exposed to the elements...water will be able to get into the lamp, which will fog the housings and corrode electrical connections. I'd check with a dealer and see if they can order them...that has to be sealed so its water tight.

If the one is missing the igniter (which I'm guessing is the square box on the back that the lightbulb is plugged in to) its pretty much worthless...you're going to have to obtain an OE replacement for it. It sounds to me like you might end up spending more just getting the parts these lights are missing than you will on the lights themselves, unless he's practically giving them away.
 

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I agree about the rear caps, very necessary. Once again, ignitors are not too expensive from e-bay. It does not have to be from Fords bin, any Hella ignitor will work as long as specs are the same (as they should be). Realistically it is not worthless, you're paying for the design of the lights. Individual pieces like 1 ignitor and a set of HID's is not that expensive and does not make the item "worthless".
 

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Yes, any ignitor that will screw into the back of the HID lamp will work, but I would guess it would be much easier to just obtain the original part. Do you really think that every HID headlamp that hella makes uses the same screw-in ignitor that these lamps use? I just checked e-bay for "hella ignitor" and it turned up one result; "04 BMW Mercedes Xenon D2S D2R Hella Ignitor Computer" for $50. It looks similar, but would you really want to spend $50 on something that might not work?

And the lamp would be worthless without the ignitor...because its not going to work without it. It can be replaced, but who knows how easy obtaining the replacement is?
 

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If I called up my local ford dealership, would they be able to tell me if they can get the parts I need for this?
 

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can i make the suggestion to get a new PAIR of bulbs as well. if you dont, your mismatch will look like hell. and the person who had these last should be shmacked! i dont see anyway you can repair these housings to make them fit perfectly. possibly if you are really good with urethane, it may be possible. or fab up some metal and JB Weld. cant help ya there, sorry. hit up svtsalvage for the caps maybe if your stealership cant help ya.
 

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i've done alot of investigating into the HID's since i bought a part that were busted.

1.) the ballast is more than $40 lildisco, the ballast is more like $500.
2.) the igniter isn't all that cheap either and you do have to use the one's made for the focus HID's
3.) you only need the center tab to hold the lights in, that goes for all focus lights. i've only had 1 tab, on both mine and i never had a problem.
4.) DO replace both low beam bulbs

i'd be very skeptical about the lights your buying, i mean, what the hell happened to those parts LMAO. i hope you get those lights for less than $300 because i'm thinking you'll be putting about $200 into them atleast.
 
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