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I currently am driving an 04 RX-8 in B-Stock and with the latest recall I am really think of ditching the 8 and picking up a 04 SVT 5Door. My question is how competitive would I be in G-Stock with new ajustable dampers, catback, v710, front sway. If there is a different route to go let me know.

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V6focus drives a 5 door svt in autox sometimes and they handle very well. It is what they are good at. Also train fan has his well set-up and takes it to selected roadrace events and does quite well ( it has a Powerworks blower ). There are a few others on here as well.
 

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you would get beat by a well driven mini cooper S, but then again everyone does. you would also have to compete with the toyota celica (damn then and their factory adjustable rear camber).

other than that, you'll be fine.
 

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The SVT doesn't stand a chance in GS on a national level, but it can hold its own localy.

I used to run mine in GS, but moved to STS last season.
 

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Now with my car, I would be in STS right? (SVT suspension swap, SVT crossmember + rear swaybar, intake, header, exaust, cams,..etc).
 

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^ i think that is SM or SP... i can't be 100% sure though.

bangadrum5, with those mods you won't be in the G-stock class. STS i think. hmmmm....
 

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Everything he listed would keep him in GS. The only thing I am not certain about is the front sway.
 

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Lucky for him then the SVT doesnt really need a bigger front sway. I cant help but wonder, maybe thats a hold over from competitive drivng in a RWD?

We dont have trouble keeping the rear planted so much as the problem IS the rear stays planted longer than the front, if you let it.
 

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You aren't gonna beat the Mini Cooper S's on anything but a regional level. Plain and simple.
 

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^^I actually don't think that that's accurate. I think that the MCS is an exceptionally tough competitor, but they dominate the class because they are simply so prevalent. With the right setup, and the right driver, I think that an SVTF can be a serious national-level competitor. If nothing else, you could do just great Regionally and in Division.
 

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Ataru said:
Everything he listed would keep him in GS. The only thing I am not certain about is the front sway.
Front sway bar is free. Some people had mixed success going with an 18mm SPI bar or no bar at all. Its a tradeoff between sway and wheelspin.
 

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^^^The MCS and the SVTF are much closer in wieght, center of gravity, and dimensions than those cars (link talks about STS Civic vs. STS Focus).
 

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MCS also has an LSD and is all around better than the SVTF in a stock setup.

There is a reason peopl euse that car for GS and not the SVTF...
 

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hey better then and spi in street modified
 

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Ataru said:
MCS also has an LSD and is all around better than the SVTF in a stock setup.

There is a reason peopl euse that car for GS and not the SVTF...
Yes, but when a particular car wins, people take notice. If an SVT Focus won at Nationals, I bet you a lot of the competition the following year would be comprised of more SVT Foci.
 

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Yes, but when a particular car wins, people take notice. If an SVT Focus won at Nationals, I bet you a lot of the competition the following year would be comprised of more SVT Foci.
The only thing is: there has never been a Focus (SVT or otherwise) at the Solo II Nationals.

Also: Per Schroeder, in Grassroots Motorsports Magazine said that "the Mini is the easiest car to drive fast" and he's driven a lot. Best recommendation I can think of.
 

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Funny.....

Neil R Wilson took 41st in GS in his SVTF
http://www.scca.com/Event/Result.asp?Ref2=84

David E Webb took 24th in HS in his Focus:
http://www.scca.com/Event/Result.asp?Ref2=42

Jason Kolk took 26th, Ryan Schnackenberg took 27th, Dan Townsend took 36th, and Van Townsend took 37th in SM in Focuses
http://www.scca.com/Event/Result.asp?Ref2=83

ALL at the 2005 Solo II Nationals....


The Focus and the SVTF is not a viable competitor on a national level in just about ANY class.

Like I said.....there's a reason people aren't using the car on a national level. It's just not competitive enough. Too heavy, gearing wrong, not the right suspension.......whatever. People will buy and use the best car for the class if it will give an advantage. The Focus has none.

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Yes, but when a particular car wins, people take notice. If an SVT Focus won at Nationals, I bet you a lot of the competition the following year would be comprised of more SVT Foci.
No......people do their research. At the national level competitors look at LOTS of factors to decide what will be the best car for the class in the following year. An SVTF just won't "win" nationals. A Focus in HS probably won't either.

Remember OmniFocus? It took him driving a MINI to place well enough at nationals. He couldn't compete in HS in his Focus until he drove a borrowed MINI.......
 

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You misunderstood our (or at least my) intent. I didn't say it was a winner; I was simply adding to Aaron's statement about the possibility and that if a driver were to win in the SVT Focus that it could disrupt the Mini craze. On paper, the Mini Cooper S is the better choice. In stock form after driving one for a spirited drive and the SVT Focus afterwards, the Mini Cooper S was clearly set up better. I think the biggest advantage the Mini has besides a better weight and better gearing is simply in its dimensions.

You don't have to post results at Nationals; we know the Mini Cooper S has been dominating and how competitive it is. The Mini Cooper S has the clear advantage, but I wouldn't go as far to say that it's unbeatable in GS.

I also think they missed the factor of size concerning the Civic Si in STS compared to the Focus in the discussion, the narrower and shorter your car is, you can carry much faster slalom speeds with the same grip. I'm not going to be the driver breaking any molds here, so this is all just discussion to me.
 

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I didn't say it was a winner; I was simply adding to Aaron's statement about the possibility and that if a driver were to win in the SVT Focus that it could disrupt the Mini craze.
But then it would be a winner, now, wouldn't it? [;)]

I wasn't posting the results of Nationals to show the MINI winning. I was posting those results to show that there have been some Focuses at Nationals, since GaryS thinks there has been none.

Oh, and there is a LOT more to it than just a car being "narrower and shorter" for a car to be a contender.
 

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Yes, if it won it would be a winner. Excuse the sarcasm, but that's just typically the state of being as generally defined for the word, win, for a person, vehicle, etc. that wins - he/she/it is a winner. [;)]

Oh, and there is a LOT more to it than just a car being "narrower and shorter" for a car to be a contender.
"I think the biggest advantage the Mini has besides a better weight and better gearing..."

I know; I didn't say that was the only thing to it. Just because I make an addition to the points being made doesn't mean I'm excluding other reasons for the vehicle's driving dynamics and class winning performance.

It's a poor oversight still. An MCS or Si does not have to travel the same distance to get around or between cones as the overall larger Focus does. That means less time scrubbed off due to not having to travel that extra distance or drive that much slower to assure proper clearance through the cones. The shorter wheelbase also gives both cars a quicker steering response as well as quicker transitional movements.
 
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