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Recently a Republican Senator brought attention to the possibility of a nationwide speed limit reduction. He cited studies that a 55 mile-per-hour limit would save two percent of highway fuel consumption a day.

The Energy Department's Web site said fuel efficiency drops sharply above 60 miles-per-hour. He said every five miles per hour above that costs drivers roughly the equivalent of paying 30 cents a gallon more at the pump.

A national speed limit was tried before, starting in 1974, but was dropped in 1995 when crude oil fell to $17 a barrel and gasoline cost $1.10 a gallon.

What are your thoughts, are you for or against reinstating the 55 MPH limit to save fuel?
 

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i rember when california had the 55mph limit on all highways, no one ever drove 55 the cops usllay gave a 10mph buffer anyway and in cali if the speed limit droped to 55 no one would slow down to it. if im not doing 75 in the fast lane of I5 then i'll get ran over.[thumb]
 

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Apparently some of you guys are not taking this gasoline problem seriously. How would you like to stand in line for several hours just to get gas at any price? I've done it and it's no fun. That's what is in store...unless something is done quickly.
 

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belive me i am taking the gas problem serousily ive cut back on my driving and think about what trips i make. i just said that it probaly wont do any good. hell alot of big rigs drive over 55 right now and they do have the speed limit of 55 in california
 

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there is no shortage of gas, nor have the arabs raised the price of gas substantially in the past year...

the price gouging is due to people playing the market...check forbes.com for info
 

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thats the problem whith people using decades old studies to prove something. yes, back when the cars did get better milage at 55 but that was due to the gearing of the trannies and diffs back then. today they are geared for the higher speeds.
55 sounds good in theory but does anyone know what it actually costs to change all the signs again? figure a minimum of 50 dollars per sign (rough estimate at 35$ pe sign and a very low install cost added also). this was one of the reasons it took so long to get rid of the 55 in the first place the cost to the state and fed to change over. were not talking a few thousand dollars, if i remember correctly the cost was way over 50 million.
once again this is your tax dollars.
if a study was done using todays cars the outlook for savings would be considerably less than they state.
my car at 55 is below the rpm it likes to run at. 65-75 is where it gets its best milage.
 

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Unfortunately most people are not driving cars that get better gas mileage at 65/75 than at 55mph. And if that limit were really enforced, shortly most everybody would be doing 55mph max.

How about a $500 fine and loss of your license for 30 days for the first offense? Want to drive 75mph now? [rolleyes]

Pretending there is no gas problem won't get things fixed......
 

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Unfortunately most people are not driving cars that get better gas mileage at 65/75 than at 55mph. And if that limit were really enforced, shortly most everybody would be doing 55mph max.

How about a $500 fine and loss of your license for 30 days for the first offense? Want to drive 75mph now? [rolleyes]

Pretending there is no gas problem won't get things fixed......
okay, a police officer pulls you over and said you were gonig 58mph, you say but my speedometer says i was doing 55mph, the cop say yeah right, gives you the ticket and you pay $500 and lose your license[dunno]
 

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I have to side with Loco on this one.

The study is flawed and so is its premise.

"Cars of yore" were HEAVY steel things with big engines and lower gearing. They were also CARBURATED, a very inefficient means to deliver fuel to the engine. A 55 MPH speed limit made sense because of the technology constraints.

Today, that is not the case. Modern fuel injection meters the fuel with unfailing accuracy (mechanical or electrical failures aside). Furthermore, emission standards are much more stringent and require that vehicles burn cleaner and that translates into efficiency. This is true at 55MPH or at 75MPH. The difference is the level and rate of consumption.

By reinstating the 55MPH speed limit, what is really being attempted is a cultural change. The original 55MPH speed limit was not about fuel economy, but SAFETY. One of the counter arguments to the national speed limit was called "Principle 42 (or something like that)".

Principle 42 basically said that no person is going to drive any faster or slower than their comfort level. For some, that speed is 40MPH and others 80 MPH. What the study found was that for people with higher thresholds, lower speeds caused their minds to wander. For those with lower thresholds, they became hyper aware at higher speeds, but were more prone to panic. So, to arbitrarily pick a number, i.e. 55MPH, had no basis.

So, back to my original point, the premise is flawed and it really is a cultural issue.

Americans view driving as a right, not a privledge. In Europe, speed limits are considerably higher, but so are the fuel costs and the penalties associated with breaking traffic laws. Combine this with a very robust public transportation infrastructure and people view driving as a something less than a necessity.

Not so here.

So, I do not fault the OPEC nations. They are greedy [:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)][:)], but that's capitalism. [dunno]

We have no one to blame but ourselves...
 

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Why would they fine and suspend our license? Instead they should cut off our right foot if we were caught speeding.[rolleyes]

Punishments like that only occur in the middle east. My bad.

A new government study really needs to occur. [thumbd] JK
 

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Yeah that's true Wee Asp except for the fact that generally speaking, the lower your RPMs at freeway cruising speed, the less fuel you will consume. Unfortunately, the highway mileage isn't where we usually suffer. Look at Corvettes..they're in the mid to high 20's on the highway now thanks to plenty of torque and solid gearing. So sure, we will individually save a penny dropping the speed limit 10MPH, but we will never see a difference in the price of gas because of it. I'm not sure we'll ever see gas drop below $4.00 per gallon no matter what happens from here on out. Unfortunately, driving isn't the only thing it effects..it effects anything and everything.

It's pretty rapidly sending us into an economic depression. The rich may (or may not) get richer, but they will at least stay where they are, but the robust middle class who have spent most of their lives a little bit closer to the comfort line, will really have to make changes to the way they live to offset the cost of things. It's hard to say how it will effect poor families since most of them could barely afford to drive before gas was so expensive. I think we'll see an increase in the poverty rate though.
 

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Yeah that's true Wee Asp except for the fact that generally speaking, the lower your RPMs at freeway cruising speed, the less fuel you will consume. Unfortunately, the highway mileage isn't where we usually suffer. Look at Corvettes..they're in the mid to high 20's on the highway now thanks to plenty of torque and solid gearing. So sure, we will individually save a penny dropping the speed limit 10MPH, but we will never see a difference in the price of gas because of it. I'm not sure we'll ever see gas drop below $4.00 per gallon no matter what happens from here on out. Unfortunately, driving isn't the only thing it effects..it effects anything and everything.

It's pretty rapidly sending us into an economic depression. The rich may (or may not) get richer, but they will at least stay where they are, but the robust middle class who have spent most of their lives a little bit closer to the comfort line, will really have to make changes to the way they live to offset the cost of things. It's hard to say how it will effect poor families since most of them could barely afford to drive before gas was so expensive. I think we'll see an increase in the poverty rate though.
Exactly my point and you did a much better job of articulating it.

Given the fact that we have a "thirst", a speed limit will have little or no impact on our cultural view of driving....
 

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here in the chicago area the speed limit IS 55mph...

everyone drives 70+ though

if you drive 55 on our highways up here, you will be a hood ornament..
 

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u wanna solve the gas problem no more 6.0 v-8 engines and if u do get one u should have to pay a gas guzzler tax everytime u fill uup

here in miami you could do about 80 in the posted 55 limit highway without getting much attention everyone else is doing like 70
 

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there is no shortage of gas, nor have the arabs raised the price of gas substantially in the past year...

the price gouging is due to people playing the market...check forbes.com for info
Not to mention we are competing with China on oil too.
 
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