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Has anyone removed their spare. I haven't even looked at it yet so i'm not sure if i have a full size or a donut. I was thinking about taking it out to lower the weight and hopefully get a little better mpg's.
 

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Full size spare does NOT allow rear floor to lay flat. The small spare and the floor is flat (is my understanding at least.)
I know i have a small spare since I never paid for a full size spare. And the rear of my hatch is flat. not bulging. (no way are they going to give you a $300+ wheel and a $130+ tire plus a inflate pressure gizmo for free..) [mecry]
Added; just to say. With good tires it is much rarer to get a flat tire than with cheap tires.
But do avoid the spare in a can stuff. it may ruin your tire sensor, and a lot of places will NOT change a tire filled with that stuff nor repair it, or charge a bundle extra to have to deal with it.
But Do carry an inflation device, like a 12v air compressor. (either the motorized type, or a hand pump.) The usual 'nail in a tire' can be inflated enough to get to a tire repair place. even if you have to stop and fill it a few times. Been there, and done that. really. I had the spare, but i just didn't want to change it, so i filled the tire (using a hand pump) and drove for a mile, then checked tire, refilled, and drove the rest of the way to a place i knew.
 

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I'm debating whether I should remove my full-size spare or replace it with a mini-spare. Replacing it with a 12V air pump could work as well. I just hate the idea of being stranded on the side of the highway with no tire. I have AAA as well, but I'd have to get a tow home since they don't give away spare tires - which isn't as helpful if I'm on my way to work or something.

The extra 4" of depth in the trunk would be nice too.
 

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Erm. The full size spare doesn't make your floor "bulge" in any way. I have the FS spare (it comes with the handling package) and the trunk floor is raised by about 3". You'll only really notice this when folding the rear seats totally flat because there is a drop from the trunk area into the cabin.

The floor of the trunk area is is completely flat and you wouldn't know there was a full-sized spare tire unless you lifted up the carpet and looked.
 

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Erm. The full size spare doesn't make your floor "bulge" in any way. I have the FS spare (it comes with the handling package) and the trunk floor is raised by about 3". You'll only really notice this when folding the rear seats totally flat because there is a drop from the trunk area into the cabin.

The floor of the trunk area is is completely flat and you wouldn't know there was a full-sized spare tire unless you lifted up the carpet and looked.
Yeah, I've also got the Ti handling package with FS spare. The trunk looks nice - could be awkward when folding seats down - but who cares.

I think removing it (for me) is more about weight reduction / gas mileage than increased cargo space.
 

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Lets talk about luggage...

I had took some photos with all options.
Full size;

Height : around 37 cm . ~ 14.5 inch


Without carpet

Spacer height is 13 cm.. ~ 5.11 inch


Spare removed


Without spacers;



Semi-size spare;



Total height is around 44 cm.. ~ 17.32 inch/ Diff :7 cm ~ around 2.75 inch



Without spare


Height is 50 cm (20 inch) right now. This is seriously difference. But you will need new carpet..

What about displacement?

Full size spare 277 lt
Semi size spare 316 lt
Without spare around 363liters
 

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I'm debating whether I should remove my full-size spare or replace it with a mini-spare. Replacing it with a 12V air pump could work as well. I just hate the idea of being stranded on the side of the highway with no tire. I have AAA as well, but I'd have to get a tow home since they don't give away spare tires - which isn't as helpful if I'm on my way to work or something.

The extra 4" of depth in the trunk would be nice too.
You got 5 years of roadside assistance from Ford when you bought the car just so you know :)
 

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You got 5 years of roadside assistance from Ford when you bought the car just so you know :)
Oh, I know. (Not even sure why I still have AAA - I've never used it for myself, just for some friends.)

As far as not having a spare tire, I'd still have to wait for assistance - what if I have important things to do when I get a flat? [:p]
 

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the weight you drop will not change your MPG much, it is only around 1.3% drop in weight, ~40 lbs tire and ~3000lbs car.

from the limited amount of research that I did a 3-5% drop in weight is about equal to a 1mpg increase in fuel economy, so best case you might see a 0.4mpg increase, but a 0.2 or 0.3mpg increase is the more likely outcome, which if you are getting 30mpg now is a 1% increase.

So I am not saying don't do it, just don't expect a big change, depending on how much you drive maybe a $1 or 2 difference a month, which may or may not be worth the time spent waiting to get a tow if you do have a flat.
 

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So I am not saying don't do it, just don't expect a big change, depending on how much you drive maybe a $1 or 2 difference a month, which may or may not be worth the time spent waiting to get a tow if you do have a flat.
I think I'll just swap my full-sized for a mini-spare like above (I think I can scrounge one up that'll fit)

If I'm going to do hypermiling, I'll try it on a beater car.
 

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I removed mine for a road trip so I could fit more stuff in and haven't put it back because I like the extra space so much. Give it a try!!! I have never had to use a spare in my whole 25 years of driving. Hope I don't just jinx myself LOL
 

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Carry an air pump. if the flat is from a naail, you can reinflate the flat long enough to get you to a place to fix it.
Only if you drove on it and displaced the bead seal would the tire not reinflate.
I posted this a few times in other ecent tire threads, so please forgive me reposting.
I had a flat and just added air and drove, checked it afterr a mile or so, refilled and drove to a place to fix it. without having to change the flat.
That was on a 1989 Tracer.
Since then i have not had a flat. and in fact had an OEM tire on my car with five nails in the tire, all the way through, never leaked air. Only knew about it when it was changed out due to worn out. Three were big nails too.
 

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Carry an air pump....Since then i have not had a flat.
I've never had a flat. I think I'll be replacing my spare with a 12V car plug compressor this weekend.
 

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I've never had a flat. I think I'll be replacing my spare with a 12V car plug compressor this weekend.
Compressor only is a bad idea. Tires go flat because they are leaking, so pumping up the tire will just get you a couple more miles down the road (unless it's really leaking and you get nowhere). Also, remember on Sundays there may be no place to fix your flat and you'll be pumping it up all day.

Better idea - buy a can of fix a flat. It seals the leak and inflates the tire in one fail swoop - and will last until you get it fixed properly.
 

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I've never had a flat. I think I'll be replacing my spare with a 12V car plug compressor this weekend.
Speak of the devil and he appears.
 

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Better idea - buy a can of fix a flat. It seals the leak and inflates the tire in one fail swoop - and will last until you get it fixed properly.
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Fix-a-Flat is the absolute WORST thing to use. And it will not work if the bead seal is broken between tire and rim either
First, many places refuse to repair a tire that Fix-a-Flat was used in. Second, Fix-a-Flat will also ruin the very expensive tire pressure monitor.
So definitely, really absolutely NEVER use Fix-a-Flat unless you are totally desparate and do not care about any of the issues.
I would definitely prefer to fill the tire, drive a mile ot two and refill, than use some garbage like Fix-a-Flat type stuff.
 

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Fix-a-Flat is the absolute WORST thing to use. And it will not work if the bead seal is broken between tire and rim either
First, many places refuse to repair a tire that Fix-a-Flat was used in. Second, Fix-a-Flat will also ruin the very expensive tire pressure monitor.
So definitely, really absolutely NEVER use Fix-a-Flat unless you are totally desparate and do not care about any of the issues.
I would definitely prefer to fill the tire, drive a mile ot two and refill, than use some garbage like Fix-a-Flat type stuff.
I forgot that caveat. Yes, you'll have to replace the TPM after using fix a flat. And always inform a shop you added it before they work on the tire - so they are prepared and can clean it up.

It definitely does seal a leaking bead. That is the very reason I have used it - a 12v air compressor cannot fix a leaking bead.

Personally - I use it in some offroad applications. For my Focus - I got a spare (that's the better solution)
 
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