I have a 2013 manual SE hatch, love this car. Got it with 12 miles, its based in Portland area. Never have let anyone else drive it, never hit a pot hole, speed bump and its never been towed. its got 11,400 miles and I rotated the tires at 10,000mi. Tires all set at 35psi with a digital gauge. Here is my issue: I just drove it across Montana and North Dakota and for the first time I ran it over bare ice on the road. (I am from Minnesota and have drivin on ice my whole life) So when I hit patchy ice the rear end wiggles. I mean its all over place scary white knuckled instability. Normally going over bare ice you just dont make sudden changes and no big deal. Due to the many hours that it took to cross thru MT and ND I was able to get it to duplicate the problem, when lets say the two right wheels are going over a long strip of ice with no traction and the left wheels are on dry pavement the ass end kicks to the right and stays there until they find dry pavement, then the car straightens out. I had this happen to a Honda that had a bent trailing arm in the rear, the rears were toed in too much. I didnt see any excessive scrubbing from the rears when I rotated the tires but I wasnt looking for it cuz I never experienced this on dry/wet roads near portland. The dealer here in Minnesota says alignments are covered under warranty till 12,500 miles. There is definitely visible neg camber on the rears but I read here thats normal and not adjustable. I was wondering if any one else has seen this. It feels like excessive toe in on the rear. The front end tracts perfectly over the bare ice. I have to get this fixed because its so abrupt when one of the rears looses traction and the other toed in tire kicks the rear over suddenly (although only so far) it initially feels like the car is starting a spin out. Thanks for reading my long winded explanation. I also read here that some of the more knowladgable MK3 owners recommend close to ZERO toe in? Thanks!!!