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So about how much hp can you get out of this turbo. Ive seen toms kits and they looked great but I can aford five large ones . I just want around 230- 250 horses. If I get this do most dyno shops put the parts on or are they just there to tune and dyno cars etc. And would I need a boost controller and turbo timer or anything like that . Basically what Im saying is what would I need to go with the kit.
 

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The kit comes with a chip BUT NO TUNING on it so you will have to find some one to tune it but the broblem is there is 2 people in the US that can do it CORRECTLY

It wont do over 220 safely and it comes with injectors that are to small 36`s and i dont like the oil pump pumping the oil from the turbo back to the engine ,But thats my opinion

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how many kits out are any good ? I know your kit is great. Tell me what all comes with your kit. Can give me so pros and cons to your kit and others. Because if Im going to shell out big bucks for a kit than I want it to be worth it . And one more thing is your kit easy to tune. If I find a dyno shop here in missouri which will probably be like finding a needle in a hay stack can it be tuned even though the person at the shop isnt familiar with it . What Im trying to say I dont want to shell out 5000 or more get it to a shop and get it installed tuned incorrectly and have my engine blow up on my way back home.
 
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i dont like the oil pump pumping the oil from the turbo back to the engine ,But thats my opinion
Not much you can do when you place the turbo so low in the car....can't have oil pressure build up in the turbo and blow seals.

DiabloChips is going to have their Predator out soon for the Focus. Guess they are working on the whole Ford line....would be much better than a chip!

Garrett has only built a very small number of GT28R turbos so far. I think they were all built by hand. Makes the kit just that much more expensive, when a GT28 would have worked, just need to boost it higher. Packaging would have been easier with the smaller turbo as well.
 

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So what your saying is diablo is working on a turbo or a different chip or what.
Hey tom will you please answer me back . I might want to buy one of your kits in the future . I wanted to know what all comes with your kit and what were the pro and cons of it .
 

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There is a list on my website of parts www.focus-power.com the tuning comes with it and is ready to go to dyno only to make sure it is safe there is 4 settings on the chip to give you some tuneability

There still is NO other turbo kit for the Focus that has tuning and that is the biggest down fall to them all

Marauder ,, there is NO diff. between a flash and a chip as for what they will do quality or power wise ,,The flash is coming out because the port the chips go in have been done away with and flash is the only solution

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so let me ask you this tom? If I get it installed in my town can I drive it to where it'll be dynoed or would I have to have them put on then dyno it . Is it set at like 5 psi before you put it on . Is it easy to install . The mechanics down here mostly deal with v-8s. there are no speed shops here .
 

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Yes is it easy to install but time consuming and you can install it in one place and drive it to where you are going to dyno it

It is set for 8-10 psi and as high as 15 with High Oct 105 or better above 9psi

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so if it is set at that level of psi than in order to get it dynoed I have to drvie to st louis or kc which is about 3 hours either way from where I live . So you dont think it will harm my motor . At 8-10 psi what would my hp numbers might be . I also would like to know how many horses I could get safely before I have to start getting internals. Iknow I would need a new clutch,and a lsd . Would my stock cams and gears be okay . Or would it be better to get new cams and gears . I know you have a different fly wheel. What would I need to get to be around 275 to 280 . Just would like some info. You the man ! You the man!

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Oh yeah I just forgot . The highest octane we have around here is 93. Would that be alright for what I want to acheive or would I need more racier fuel.
 

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Dont mean to keep bugging you tom . Just wanted to get as much info as possible and as seeing as you are the authority on this subject , I have to ask as many questions as possible . I was going to go s/c but I dont see the numbers Im looking for . Your kit has everything I need . I was only wanting 220to 250 but 270 to 280 is looking better.
 

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Anything above 200 to 220 will need better higher Oct fuel for safety and anything above 260 to 270 needs to think about doing a stronger engine

The stock cams will make over 400 a set of Adj cam gears would be good

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All I want is to be in the mid to upper 200's . So I guess I would need a higher octane than 93 . Can you tell me what kinda hp I could achieve safely with that amount of octane. thanx tom
 
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Marauder ,, there is NO diff. between a flash and a chip as for what they will do quality or power wise ,,The flash is coming out because the port the chips go in have been done away with and flash is the only solution
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Except a chip is set, and needs reburning.

The Predator you can make adjustments yourself and download the tune. You still need to tune it yourself, but you don't need someone to burn you a chip. As they come, its only adjustable enough for a NA setup with boltons. But diablo is very helpful as far as getting you tuneups.

When I talked to Diablo, they said they want the chips to go away because of the installation problems with the port on the ECU's. Some the terminals just go away with over time and some people just don't clean them off properly. And then, yes, the newer ECU's will not have the port to accept a chip.

If you have a automatic, the Predator can also adjust the tranny. Something just a normal chip can't do on the fly.
 

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Really what I want to know what kind of setup do I need to reach 250-270 . One would be your turbo What else would I need . I just want 250-to 270 . If I can' get that I would like know what I need to make 200 to 250 . I dont have that high a octane . Like I said would 93 octane be okay . And if it is set at 8-9psi out of the box how hp is that going to give . Can I just leave it that or does it have to be dyno tuned. Sorry to keep bugging . But like I said I would like as much info as possible
 

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The chip is set and ready to go and as it comes it can make 200 to 220 on a stock engine and on 93 Oct fuel

Things that help are 70MM TB ,3 inch Exh, Adj cam gears

If you add some Higher Oct fuel doing 260/270 HP at the wheels will not be a problem

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thank you for all your help tom . I appreciate the answers you have given me. 200-to 220 would be just fine . I can whip up on some of the hondas around here . Would still like 250-270 though but dont have that kind of octane gas around here.
 

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Yeah your right I talked to a few people at work that have drag cars . And they told me that the fuel they use is like 4 dollars and something cents a gallon. The way gas prices are right now I think that is out of my budget. Oh hey can I leave the psi setting at 8-9 without getting it dynoed.
 
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