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So last night I did a compression test on my 06 ford focus, when I got finished putting the last cylinder together I went to open my door and the horn started going off. It didn't go in a pattern it seemed like it wasn't a car alarm that someone broke in but it seemed like the pattern the horn went in was the decision of the car. when I got in to try to turn it off by entering the key in the ignition it would only click and keep honking so in that circumstance I disconnected the negative terminal and then I tried to start it and it fired right up. I noticed that the security system on the bottom of driver side was flashing rapidly. I had a similar problem like this before I replaced the battery and alternator then my problem went away, but now its back and its been less then a year since I've replaced that alternator and there is no way it has w gone bad already. So now when I want to start my car I have to pop the hood while it honks uncontrollably and remove the negative connection to start my car.

I'm using the same key it says ford on it and even then I used my spare and neither of them are damaged, I broke my fuel pump relay while I was doing my compression test but I looked up a diagram and noticed the relay next to it was a high beam relay and switched them. Could that be my problem? or should I replace it and keep looking? please help I'm scratching a hole in my head.
 

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If you bought a rebuilt alternator instead of a new one it could definitely be bad.
 

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What you get with lifetime warranty parts. You think it means better quality stuff but what it actually means is that they will give you junk over and over when it fails for a lifetime.

Even the brand new alts can fail way early if they do not have heavy duty regulators in them. (They don't.)

I gave as many as 4 warranty alts in a year to people, the parts are that bad now.
 

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The fuel pump and headlight relays are the same - that should not be your problem. Also keep in mind that the factory car alarm system is a seperate system from the PATS. A PATS issue will not cause the alarm to go off - you just wont be able to start your car.

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If you bought a rebuilt alternator instead of a new one it could definitely be bad.
It definitely not rebuilt because I bought it from AutoZone. Do you think the the battery could not work for this car it has a 550cca and the old battery was a 660cca the other day I was sitting in the parking lot of my work just listening to music and my car was dead by the time I got finished with my lunch break.
 

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The fuel pump and headlight relays are the same - that should not be your problem. Also keep in mind that the factory car alarm system is a seperate system from the PATS. A PATS issue will not cause the alarm to go off - you just wont be able to start your car.

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that is the weird thing about it is when it starts honking by itself I cannot start my car at all but the dash will light up. I disconnected the horn so I could listen to clicking and it seemed to be coming from behind the dash im not sure if that's from the horn going off or something else. I also noticed if I locked my car then unlocked it with the key it would go off but if I didn't it would be just fine.
 

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What you get with lifetime warranty parts. You think it means better quality stuff but what it actually means is that they will give you junk over and over when it fails for a lifetime.

Even the brand new alts can fail way early if they do not have heavy duty regulators in them. (They don't.)

I gave as many as 4 warranty alts in a year to people, the parts are that bad now.
Hahaha shit the alternator was a bitch to get out. Do you think it could possibly be the connection?
 

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I went to open my door and the horn started going off.
That is the clue. Does the alarm sound (or the clicking behind the dash) by only moving the door or only when latching/unlatching the door?

BTW is the clicking from under the passenger side of the dash?

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That is the clue. Does the alarm sound (or the clicking behind the dash) by only moving the door or only when latching/unlatching the door?

BTW is the clicking from under the passenger side of the dash?

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It sounds like it comes from the middle of the dash, it stopped doing it recently and acts just fine now. But when the door is locked and I unlock it with my key that's when it beeps oddly. It dosent have a normal pattern it dosent sound like a car alarm at all. To get it to stop I have to disconnect my negative terminal and reattach it to get it to start up. It's very odd I've never had anything like this before. It makes me wonder if the PCM could be bad
 

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It sounds like it comes from the middle of the dash, it stopped doing it recently and acts just fine now. But when the door is locked and I unlock it with my key that's when it beeps oddly. It dosent have a normal pattern it dosent sound like a car alarm at all. To get it to stop I have to disconnect my negative terminal and reattach it to get it to start up. It's very odd I've never had anything like this before. It makes me wonder if the PCM could be bad
PCM has nothing to do with the anti-theft alarm.

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That is the clue. Does the alarm sound (or the clicking behind the dash) by only moving the door or only when latching/unlatching the door?

BTW is the clicking from under the passenger side of the dash?

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I had the alternator and batter checked at autozone today and they both came back fine. He says there could be a waiting issue. After looking at the blinking box on the bottom of my dash I located a brown wire near the pcm that has a little cut in it I could have accidentally cut when I put lose wires up with zip ties and I may have accidentally nicked it. It is a brown wire, do you think you could help me find a diagram? Paul your a cool guy for helping me, if you would like I would like to get into contact with you to show you pictures to see what you think because your a MK1 god hahaha.
 

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That is the clue. Does the alarm sound (or the clicking behind the dash) by only moving the door or only when latching/unlatching the door?

BTW is the clicking from under the passenger side of the dash?

Paul
I found out that it's not clicking from anything but the security system box I got under the dash and searched for the clicking and it defently is coming from the security system box. And I think its clicking in the fuse box as well
 

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I had the alternator and batter checked at autozone today and they both came back fine. He says there could be a waiting issue. After looking at the blinking box on the bottom of my dash I located a brown wire near the pcm that has a little cut in it I could have accidentally cut when I put lose wires up with zip ties and I may have accidentally nicked it. It is a brown wire, do you think you could help me find a diagram? Paul your a cool guy for helping me, if you would like I would like to get into contact with you to show you pictures to see what you think because your a MK1 god hahaha.
Hardly...

I found out that it's not clicking from anything but the security system box I got under the dash and searched for the clicking and it defently is coming from the security system box. And I think its clicking in the fuse box as well
Im a bit confused by 'blinking box/security box' - do you have an aftermarket alarm?

FYI Your Focus has two electronic modules mounted under the dash on the far passenger side of the dash behind the glove box: the PCM and the GEM. They are mounted 'on edge' - like books on a shelf - with the GEM mounted on top of the PCM. The alarm is controlled by the GEM. The GEM sometimes makes clicking sounds because it has internal relays.

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Im a bit confused by 'blinking box/security box' - do you have an aftermarket alarm?

FYI Your Focus has two electronic modules mounted under the dash on the far passenger side of the dash behind the glove box: the PCM and the GEM. They are mounted 'on edge' - like books on a shelf - with the GEM mounted on top of the PCM. The alarm is controlled by the GEM. The GEM sometimes makes clicking sounds because it has internal relays.

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I have no idea what the heck this thing is. It says ford motor company
P/N : 2W7J-19A498-AA
It must be aftermarket I just have no idea how to remove it. Its clicking from that thing and the blinking light is an indicator apparently. I wish I could share a picture cause I have no idea what is going on I more of a mechanical person then a electrical person
 

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I have no idea what the heck this thing is. It says ford motor company
P/N : 2W7J-19A498-AA
It must be aftermarket I just have no idea how to remove it. Its clicking from that thing and the blinking light is an indicator apparently. I wish I could share a picture cause I have no idea what is going on I more of a mechanical person then a electrical person
If you google that pn:

A bit more searching and it seems that is a dealer installed Ford add-on alarm system. It also may be a remote start. If it is causing more grief than good I would remove it or have it removed. You car hcame from the factory with an alarm and PATS for anti theft.

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If you google that pn:

A bit more searching and it seems that is a dealer installed Ford add-on alarm system. It also may be a remote start. If it is causing more grief than good I would remove it or have it removed. You car hcame from the factory with an alarm and PATS for anti theft.

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Hell yea!!!! You are the man Paul, I took it out and car starts and runs great without an issue. It's crazy it would be an remote start and be that retarded? your are the man I owe you one buddy
 
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