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I been using Fram oil filters on my Focus and was wondering if anyone has found any problems or downfalls with Fram oil filters [?]
Anybody using any other brand or recommend a brand that may be better [?]
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TRY K&N

I have been using the k&n filter part hp 2009 and it has worked very good with my engine
 

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use the OEM!!!

[:p] Well i think that the OEM is better because his oilpsi is the factory one's!! The Fram, they don't use the psi valve inside the filter.. like the oem. Like VW, i have a vw race car and i use the factory!! OEM!!! because the oilpsi is better... if the oem vw filter fit in my Focus, i go to use it!![thumb] [thumb]



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Everyone that I hear talking over the net says teh Fram is bad for filtration. I don't know why. I don't think I'd shy away from Mobil1, AMSOIL, Purolator Pureone.
 

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i use MOTORCRAFT so its made by ford for ford and they sell them cheap at wal mart
 

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The first filter I bought for my Focus was a Fram and it was about 1 inch shorter than the one from the factory. I went back to the store and rechecked the number and it was the one Fram recommends. I'll stick with the Motorcraft from now on. Cheaper and readily available at Walmart along with Motorcraft oil.
 

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Everything I've read leads me to believe you should stay away from Fram filters. One of their brands (I think it was the ToughGard, but I'm not sure) was reported to be decent, but the basic Fram filter is said to be junk.

At this time, Mobil has confirmed to me they don't make a filter for the Zetec, though it may be coming at some future date. Why, I have no idea, seeing as how popular the Zetec engine is. Purolator also does not have a Pure 1 model available. I'm pretty sure AMSOIL has one, but I haven't verified this. Their filters are rated pretty good, but you fall back to that whole mail order business. Same with K&N, unless you have a store nearby that sells them.

So, pretty much if you're looking for a high quality oil filter that is readily available, you're going to have to stick with Motorcraft. Their filters are made by Purolator, and are pretty decent. Wix also makes good filters, but they are also hard to find. All of the filters I've listed above (with the exception of Fram) are reported to be the best oil filters available. Do a search on the internet and you should find a few different oil filter ratings that have been done. If you're choosing between Fram and Motorcraft based on price, availability (at least in my small corner of the world) and performance, definately go with Motorcraft.

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Thanks for the info guys. [thumb]
I guess I better stick with Motorcraft or something other than Fram.
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Well, I'll be honest. I used Fram on my old Focus, and often on my Dodge Dynasty. The Walmart by me seems to only carry Fram, and I don't feel like going to multiple stores for an oil change. (they usually have the best prices on oil) Both cars still run well. I understand they are cheaply made, but they still work.

The new Focus only runs on Motocraft. Thats the only filter out there for it.
 

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woah, shit.... This is my first car, and the first car I've ever done the oil changes on.... I didnt figure the oil filter was that a big a deal. I mean, i knew you needed one, and that it has to be changed regularily, and yada yada, but i didnt think brand to brand it was a big deal. I've been buying mine at walmart. the walmart by me, they only have two brands that fit the focus.. FRAM and some ugly white thing (its probally motocraft..) I've been buyin the FRAM because its $1.50 more, so i figured if one was i higher quality, that would be it..... plus its a funky orange color.[rolleyes] Guess i should do a little research before the next oil change comes up....
 

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Dave30, I thought the same thing. I figure that since the Fram costed a little more that it would be better quality and better for my car. I guess sometimes you have to do the research before spending the extra cash.
 

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At this time, Mobil has confirmed to me they don't make a filter for the Zetec, though it may be coming at some future date. Why, I have no idea, seeing as how popular the Zetec engine is. Purolator also does not have a Pure 1 model available. I'm pretty sure AMSOIL has one, but I haven't verified this. Their filters are rated pretty good, but you fall back to that whole mail order business. Same with K&N, unless you have a store nearby that sells them.

So, pretty much if you're looking for a high quality oil filter that is readily available, you're going to have to stick with Motorcraft. Their filters are made by Purolator, and are pretty decent. Wix also makes good filters, but they are also hard to find. All of the filters I've listed above (with the exception of Fram) are reported to be the best oil filters available. Do a search on the internet and you should find a few different oil filter ratings that have been done. If you're choosing between Fram and Motorcraft based on price, availability (at least in my small corner of the world) and performance, definately go with Motorcraft.
Yes Mobil does make oil filters for a Zetec Focus. I have one on my car. The Taurus, Sable, Focus and many other FORD cars all use the same filter. I have had it one for 4000 miles now. So that being said everyone from Purolator to AMSOIL all make an oil filter for the Focus since I had a Sable and I used all the brands stated above for my Sable.
 

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I have always used fram. I have 280k on my ranger, and nothing but fram filters since I got it at 116k. I think fram is just fine. But I will only run motorcraft on my focus, as I am getting more and more a beleiver that Ford engineered the parts for the car, and they aren't going to make something cheaply and put in jepordy there reputation.
 

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Jibberish18,

What part # are you using for your Mobil 1 oil filter? I checked the newest catalog at my local auto parts store, and there isn't one listed. I called the Mobil oil filter tech line (yes, there is a phone number specifically for their oil filters) and the tech told me they don't make one. Same with the PureOne filter from Purolator - none listed in the 2003 catalog.

You may be using a filter with the same threading, diameter, etc., but neither Mobil or Purolator has a specific filter listed for my engine - a 2003 Zetec DOHC 2.0L. Can you list your filter part numbers so I can cross reference them? I'm very curious. Thanks
 

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Jibberish18,

What part # are you using for your Mobil 1 oil filter? I checked the newest catalog at my local auto parts store, and there isn't one listed. I called the Mobil oil filter tech line (yes, there is a phone number specifically for their oil filters) and the tech told me they don't make one. Same with the PureOne filter from Purolator - none listed in the 2003 catalog.

You may be using a filter with the same threading, diameter, etc., but neither Mobil or Purolator has a specific filter listed for my engine - a 2003 Zetec DOHC 2.0L. Can you list your filter part numbers so I can cross reference them? I'm very curious. Thanks
I don't have a part # on me right now. As I said the filter I have on my focus is also used for the 3.0 OHV Vulcan motor on the Taurus/Sable cars. It is also if I am correct used for a Ford Ranger, and Explorer and possibly other cars. And this was the same situation for Mobil oil filters, Pureone from Purolator, Proline from Pepboys and Motorcraft. Even th old filter that came on the car when I bought it used off the street had the same shape/size/diameter filter as my Mobil filter. It's been years since the Zetec engine has come out for the Focus and even before that the Escort and no body has an oil filter for this thing? HIGHLY doubt that. And if I'm not using the correct filter then the hell with it. It fits perfectly, looks like it was made to be there and I cross referenced 4 different brands and like 5 different cars to come upon the conclusion that it is made for our cars.
 

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Purolator oil filter and others.

2003 FORD Focus
4 cyl. 121 2.0L F.I. (VIN 3) (DOHC)

Vehicle Part Listing

PART TYPE NOTE PART #
Oil Filter L25230
Air Filter A25324
Air Filter Cabin C25387
Fuel Filter F65277

They don't make the PureOne yet for our cars.[:(]

If you get the Motorcraft and the Purolator side by side, there basically the same size but the ends are different. The Purolator has the standard 14 flute end and the Motorcraft has the smaller flutes(20+). All this means is that if you buy one of those oil filter wrenches that fit a specific oil filter, most of them are for the 14 flute kind like Purolator and Fram and it won't work for the Motorcraft. Well, at least the one I use for the Fram didn't work for the Motorcraft and I has to go by the filter wrench that had the smaller flutes.
If you go to Walmart, they carry Fram and Motorcraft, take a look at the ends and you will see what I'm talking about.
 

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All this means is that if you buy one of those oil filter wrenches that fit a specific oil filter, most of them are for the 14 flute kind like Purolator and Fram and it won't work for the Motorcraft.
If that's the case then it is basically the same filter right?
 
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