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Okay so im prepping my SVT for this up coming spring to run Autocross. I am trying to get into a class i will be competitive in. I have taken off my 67mm TB because it jumps me up into a higher class. What i need to know, will my ORP do the same? or will i be in classing with Svt's with HFC's someone please clear it up?
 

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An offroad pipe will put you into street prepared, though I don't remember if that is DSP or FSP. So you might as well put the throttle body back on;)

Maybe someone could comment on this, I know there's been a flurry of proposals for moving cars in classes, haven't been able to keep track of them all.

For Street touring, you are supposed to run the factory CAT or an functioning replacement that sits in a similar position to the OEM location. I ran street touring last year, and I can tell you there are several honda's that are running with gutted CATs etc. But I am faster, so no reason to really protest.
 

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So maybe get a HFC? Or is there a chance i can use my orp in a class that would be competitive?
 

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Well, I would say that the most cost effective option, IMO, would be to find an SVT OEM Cat and that would be good enough to do OK at local events in STS.

You could add a LSD and increase wheel/tire size and run in STX.

I don't know if the SVT focus will ever be competitive in DSP...

You could go back to stock and run HS though I don't know if that's in 2009 or 2010
 

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So lets say I run a HFC and my borla exhaust. No 67mm TB, What class would that put me in? And what other types of cars would i encounter?
 

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That's not going to work unless you have the rest of the SVT exhaust.
I assume that if he has an SVT he's still running a SVT header, so he'll be good to go.
 

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So lets say I run a HFC and my borla exhaust. No 67mm TB, What class would that put me in? And what other types of cars would i encounter?
You would be in Street touring, now in '09 known as ST.

This is also known as Spec '89 Civic Si at the national level but, locally this class will see a large variety of cars. Foci, Neons, Subaru 2.5RS's, Civics, Accords, small displacement 4 seat cars w/o LSD's.

Go to SCCA.com, find your region and check out their website, most regions will post the results from their events. Look up some past events in STS to see what you'll be up against.
 

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Hi-flo in OE location is what was called STS
Hi flo w/in 6" of OE is what was called STX

I know the class names are revised for 09--and there were some larger tire allowances in STX FWD/RWD as well (AWD stays at 245s).

STX is the better fit for the heavyish Focus--LSD helps a ton, along with the possibility of wider wheels (8 vs 7.5) and/or tires than STS. The top STX cars are only a smidge faster (on average per PAX/RTP) than the top STS cars--and a STX Focus will easily beat a STS Focus if both are at max prep.

As for DSP--Aaron Williams in Chicago does quite well in his SVT. Its no match for the panzer BMWs--but it'll run with the Hondas and most others. He was mid-pack at Nationals....
 

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As for DSP--Aaron Williams in Chicago does quite well in his SVT. Its no match for the panzer BMWs--but it'll run with the Hondas and most others. He was mid-pack at Nationals....
Thanks for the correction Erik, as always an excellant driver can often break a general conception of what a car can do in a given class.

I would venture to say though that Aaron Williams has his car build up close to the rules...correct me if I'm wrong there. It would take a lot of investment for our friend who started this thread here to reach that level of prep with his car. He also hasn't said what his level of driving experience is either.

I guess my recommendation would be to go for STX. Build the car up for the class and then make a jump to street prepared when you're ready to trailier your car to events;)
 

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I would say my level of driving is better than most "people" who think they can drive. I have no proof in saying this just my opionion. What kind of mods could i have in STX class?
 

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STX in a nutshell

-Wheels and tires per auto-x-zts' post
-Intake free upstream of throttle body
-Exhaust free after exhaust port, with an aftermarket cat w/i 6 inches of OEM location
-Springs and dampers are free with stock mounting locations
-Camberplates allowed
-Aftermarket LSD
-Sway bars are free

Those are some of the main items
 

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Thanks for the correction Erik, as always an excellant driver can often break a general conception of what a car can do in a given class.

I would venture to say though that Aaron Williams has his car build up close to the rules...correct me if I'm wrong there. It would take a lot of investment for our friend who started this thread here to reach that level of prep with his car. He also hasn't said what his level of driving experience is either.

I guess my recommendation would be to go for STX. Build the car up for the class and then make a jump to street prepared when you're ready to trailier your car to events;)
Aaron's car is pretty mild. I Think: Konis, H&R Race, LCR camber, ATS 15x8, 225/45 Hoosiers, 25MM RSB, Bushings, no cat, small battery, no AC, race seats, CAI, custom exhaust...
 

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So the better bet is to what: Ditch the ORP and get HFC? Or Keep ORP And Just Race.
Go out and race, you'll be glad you did!!!
 

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