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5-door, there will be no 3-door MKIII Focus.
But isn't there talks/rumors on a RS Fiesta that could be 3 door? or was that just prior to knowing if the Focus RS was going to happen because its a 5 door?

Either way... what can be done to a car with a factory warranty and still keep it? Wasn't there some court ruling a while back that said "minor" aftermarket stuff would not void warranty (i.e. bolt on's) so air intake, cat back exhaust, short through shifter. cant think of much else... can not void warranty?
 

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I love it....Ford does us a solid by bringing us the same ST as Europe has right down to the tires and I come in this thread only to find people bitching about it not being good enough and "can't wait for the RS [that will never come because unfortunately Focus owners are the same as the Escort owners a lot of us used to be; all talk until they get exactly what they want.....then no money.] !Thank you Ford for bringing us this car¡ Ill be honest, can't afford a new one but in a couple years I will buy one off-lease or dealer demo. Or if I got lucky like I did with my current "ST" SAP2, pick one up from repo for thousands under book. Just my 3 1/2¢....

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^^^ I don't think any of that is being said. We are saying that the motor will be a PITA to try and tune and we just wonder why a "tuner" specific car that is marketed towards a specific type of person would either be difficult for 3rd party people to tune or why Ford them selves don't provide tunes/updates for modifications.

I will be getting the ST next year around Aug. As far as the no Money... I bet the RS would have sold more units per year that the SVT did... SVT was only 50 more HP and had a price tag that some people thought was a bit much for that. The mind set has also shifted since the late 90's early 2000's on smaller cars, thus the Fiesta is back in the US market along with the smart car, Mini, the Scion FR-S coming out soon...). People in the USA said why spend 30k on a small car when I can get XXX which is bigger. Now people are in a better mind set for a "Hot Hatch" and are willing to spend the same price. You can get a Mustang GT for $32k and the Focus ST is around $28... for $4k more you could have the 5.0L V8 vs the Turbo 2.0L 4-cyl. The GT has 420 H, so for $4k more you get an extra 150HP and rear wheel drive? 10 years ago no one would have bought the 3 door focus, they would have gotten the mustang. Today is a different story.
 

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There's alot of competition out there in the $30k range and it's a buyers paradise;the sporty car market is in better shape than it ever has been.
 

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My understanding of the 2.0 in the ST is that it is already maxed out (or nearly maxed out) on power as it stands. That is supposedly why the RS is getting a 2.3l...

Last I knew, though a relatively easy fix (and probably ironed out by now), is that the ST was popping the stock head gaskets...
 

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seriously? i always buy off-lease.... let some other schmuck pay the depreciation.

And yes, in every single thread since the real ST was announced all I've seen is people saying "Wish it was the RS!" just like back in the day it was "Wish it was the Escort Cosworth!". Basically people are never happy with what they get. That's all Im saying.

Thanks for sticking words in my mouth dingleberry.


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And seriously, who right this minute actually has anything but monopoly money to plunk down $30k+ for a Focus? I've been on car boards since most of the members here were in preschool and its always the same.....people bitching and moan about cars and parts they want but as soon as companies come to the table with the goods there's no one coming up with the cash. Example: group buys. 'Nuff said. :)
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I have the money, and if the RS were here I would do it. But it's not, and I'm not going to waste $28k on a Focus that I can't mod on my own (due to it being at it's limits).

You seem to be the one with a bad attitude here, name calling and all. The problem with Ford, imho, is that they waited way to long to introduce a decent FI car in the compact market. How much money would they have made if one out of every three SRT-4's had been this ST?

Now, we're past 250hp. Ford has a bit of catch up to do. They're still 5 years behind. And I like the ST, it just isn't the car for me.
 

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i agree.... we said the same back in the day....bring us a turbo Escort.

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And you're right, I shouldn't have called the douchebag a name for putting words in my mouth. Its not about having the money, people who spend it wisely don't have that problem. ;)
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And you're right, I shouldn't have called the douchebag a name for putting words in my mouth. Its not about having the money, people who spend it wisely don't have that problem. ;)
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I went back through the posts, and correct me if I'm wrong, but I think you are the only one in this thread saying you can't afford one...[confused]

I guess I just don't understand what you're getting at with your posts.
 

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How much money would they have made if one out of every three SRT-4's had been this ST?
if this ST feels anything like the SRT4 i will be smiling ear to ear
i loved driving the SRT4 around, i won lots of races, only down side buying it used i had to do a lot of work to keep it running, granted it was pushing it every day i drove it.

hopefully the ST is more reliable, and has a feel of even more power
 

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Dart SRT-4

if this ST feels anything like the SRT4 i will be smiling ear to ear
i loved driving the SRT4 around, i won lots of races, only down side buying it used i had to do a lot of work to keep it running, granted it was pushing it every day i drove it.

hopefully the ST is more reliable, and has a feel of even more power
Wait to the new Dart SRT-4 comes out. I'm sure Ralph Gilles knows he has to bring at least 300 hp to the table.
 

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I have the money, and if the RS were here I would do it. But it's not, and I'm not going to waste $28k on a Focus that I can't mod on my own (due to it being at it's limits). The problem with Ford, imho, is that they waited way to long to introduce a decent FI car in the compact market. How much money would they have made if one out of every three SRT-4's had been this ST?

Now, we're past 250hp. Ford has a bit of catch up to do. They're still 5 years behind. And I like the ST, it just isn't the car for me.
I totalley agree w/ you as far as Ford is behind ^^^^ For some reason Ford has some great concepts & idea's & it takes them along time to hit production. Chryler for years seems to come out w/ products pretty quickly. Now that Chrysler & Fiat are one lets see what happens.
 

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And you're right, I shouldn't have called the douchebag a name for putting words in my mouth. Its not about having the money, people who spend it wisely don't have that problem. ;)
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Lot of name calling dude. I actually didn't put any words in your mouth I just boiled it down to the bare minimum. If you like buying cars from repo to save some money that's fine.
I think the new ST is a great car, but like others have said Ford is a little late to the party. I would have already put down a deposit if it was a 3-dr hatch. I'm not bashing Ford because of that I just have a very practical reason. I'm 6'4" and weigh 250#. I've been in a new focus 5-dr and can't see folding myself up every time I get in/out of a car. Hence the need for a 3-dr. I'm still hoping Ford will make that possible with the RS.
 

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Not sure why people think the ST will be maxed out as it is , would be no problem to add 30-40 with a tune , few more mods and another 20HP , engine build and 200-300 more HP

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