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E Brake Cable Question

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How did your e brake cable install go? I first tried to mount the cable to the rear knuckle using the supplied bracket, but the cable then doesn't reach the caliper. I then tried to slide the bracket along the cable, but that was a no-go. I then ended up taking the route you did, ditching the bracket and popping the cable out of it so there is just the rubber sleeve where the bracket used to fit. Mine are now routed identically to yours, just using the existing plastic clips to fasten the cable to the unibody, then routing through the hole in the supplies Massive bracket that holds both the cable and the hose, and then to the caliper. If you check out Massive's install pics, you can see they didn't route the cable via the bracket but they also did not use the clip on the brake cable.

https://massivespeedforums.com/new-massive-focus-rear-disk-conversion-kit-facts-a-t17130155.html

The problem is that now I have the opposite problem, instead of the cable being too short it now has too much slack. The cable stays in place but I never get pressure on the calipers when pulling the handle, even after adjusting the tensioner all the way down. The cables are still attached under the car below the handle up front, but that is where the slack is. I am not sure where I went wrong on this one, I ordered the below spacers (supposed to be used as extenders/connectors) to try to fix the problem, but I would really rather figure out what went wrong in the first place. The new brakes are otherwise working great and my install looks just like yours.

https://www.amazon.com/Dorman-21123-Brake-Connector-Assortment/dp/B002H93BVW
 

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Figured it out, and didnt end up needing to use the iffy brake line connector approach. There is a hole in the caliper itself that the brake line is supposed to go through just before it attaches to the caliper spring. A plastic sleeve on the line snaps into this hole in the caliper and holds the line securely in place. The Haynes manual did not cover this and i never noticed it.
 

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Great you got it figured out....
 

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Hi All, sorry for the thread sorta revival here.

I hail from sunny convict land Australia, and was wondering if anyone would happen to know if the 2006-2011 knuckles in the US are the same globally. reason i ask is that we i can get a set of 2006-2011 knuckles here for a dime, but going to cost me an arm and a leg from the states.

If i choose to import the ST170 knuckles from the UK its the same + my first born.

if that is indeed the case then im hoping to use the focus st225 knuckles with the 320mm calipers.

any info greatly appreciated.
 

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Hi All, sorry for the thread sorta revival here.

I hail from sunny convict land Australia, and was wondering if anyone would happen to know if the 2006-2011 knuckles in the US are the same globally. reason i ask is that we i can get a set of 2006-2011 knuckles here for a dime, but going to cost me an arm and a leg from the states.

If i choose to import the ST170 knuckles from the UK its the same + my first born.

if that is indeed the case then im hoping to use the focus st225 knuckles with the 320mm calipers.

I'm not sure about the US spec '06-'11 knuckles being the same as the euro ones, as the Euro Foci was a mk2 at that point vs the basic mk1 platform from '00-'11 for the US. The Volvo s40/v50 & the Mazda 3 used the euro mk2 platform. The st170 are the same as the US svt.
 

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Hello everyone,

I recently finished installing Massive's new front big brake kit and rear disc conversion kit for the MK1, and have put some mileage on the setup. Here is the link:

Massive Brake System Components FORD - Massive Hardcore Racing Performance Parts - Massive Speed System - Ford Focus Specialists

Since these kits are fairly new and I haven't seen any posts about them, I wanted to make this post to summarize the installation process, document the major changes, and give my impressions on what it's like to drive with the final setup.

FRONT BIG BRAKE KIT

What it's doing


Basically, it builds upon the SVT or '05 - '11 knuckles with a bracket that brings the caliper mounting points out even further from the hub, enabling usage of bigger rotors compared to standard SVT. It uses the 2-piston aluminum 2011-2014 Mustang GT caliper, and Mustang GT rotors that have been machined to be slightly smaller in diameter.

Installation

This isn't a step-by-step guide on how to install, but I can speak generally about the process.

If you don't already have SVT or '05 - '11 knuckles, you'll need to find a pair and put them on. I have a plain old MK1, so I had to do this. In the below image, the SVT knuckle is on the right. Note that this is a great opportunity to get new wheel bearings pressed in.


It's also a great opportunity to inspect the tie rod ends, ball joints, sway bar end links, and CV joints for tears in the boots or overly tough movement. I replaced tie rod ends on both sides because they were torn, and one sway bar end link for the same reason.

Try not to damage the ball joint and tie rod end boots when separating them from the knuckle. Especially if you're using pickle forks. I ended up buying a specialty ball joint separator to do the job.


After the new knuckle is on, it's time to start installing the kit. This is the part where I'm lacking photos. I do have new / old comparison shots though. New aluminum, two-piston caliper compared to stock:


New 13" rotor (bottom) compared to stock (on top):


Fast forward a bit and you'll be looking at this. The purple thing is the Massive bracket that bolts to the knuckle using two bolts. Then the caliper bolts onto that bracket. Braided stainless steel flex lines are also included, with a small bracket to locate them onto the main purple bracket.




Wheel clearance

You need at least 17" wheels to clear these brakes. EAP wheels will just barely fit, but I wouldn't do it. The caliper is quite literally a millimeter or two away from the wheel barrel.



I have 17x7 Team Dynamics Pro Race 3, +42 offset, and they have more comfortable clearance.



REAR DISC CONVERSION KIT

What it's doing


This kit uses brackets to adapt a rear hub, caliper, and rotor to your existing trailing arm, while retaining the existing spindle. It uses SVT rear rotors and MK3 Focus aluminum rear calipers. New parking brake cables and flex lines are provided.

Installation

First, remove everything relating to brakes in the rear, until you're left with a bare trailing arm. Unfortunately, I don't have a photo for this stage.

The four bolts on the backside of the trailing arm that secure the spindle will be corroded, tight, and be incredibly difficult to access. You need to unbolt the lower shock mount and get creative with how you position yourself and the ratchet.

This is a good opportunity to replace other rear suspension components if you need to. I replaced both lower control arms since they were really rusty (photos later).

Sandwiching Massive's bracket between the arm and the existing spindle. The caliper bolts to this bracket.


And then the new hub with fresh wheel bearings goes onto the spindle.


Then the rotor and caliper can go on.


Then you have to install new flex lines and the parking brake cables. Unfortunately I have no photos of this work.

Here are some photos of the end result:


Brackets are supplied to locate and route the parking brake cables and flex lines at the camber arm. They are nicely done and keep things away from the wheel and shock.



New control arms too:


Then bleed your brakes and get an alignment. The finished product:


Driving impressions

The car can stop much shorter and with less fade during repeated stops. Pedal feel is firmer past 50%. Hard braking makes your head feel funny. I am happy with it! A driver can feel more confident and safer.

The limiting factor for me now is my all-season tires. My next set will be sticky summer tires, which should reduce stopping distances further. Also, I don't know if the supplied brake pads are performance-oriented compounds; there is probably room for improvement there as well.

Other notes

  • The rear kit is available in three versions: One with brand new calipers, one with low-mileage take-off calipers, and one with just the brackets (you supply the calipers and rotors). I got the take-off kit and the quality of the calipers was fine. You could go with brand new stuff if you want, but I don't see the need.

  • In theory, you could bolt on Mustang GT Performance Pack Brembos for the front, or even GT500 calipers, but then you'd have to run at least 18" wheels and find different rotors. I don't know if the flex lines would reach, or if the stock master cylinder could keep up. I also think that it would be expensive overkill, although it would look totally badass.

  • The front kit retails for $700, and the rear with take-off calipers goes for $460 ($610 if you want new calipers). So basically $1200 plus the install time. I think the value proposition here is fair, especially given the bolt-on nature (no cutting or welding), the fact that you get nice, new fasteners, and the detailed instructions with pictures.

  • My only concern is with the front rotors. They are not stock Mustang GT rotors; Massive has machined them to be slightly smaller diameter and so they are the only source for replacements. I don't know what the cost is, and I don't know how long they'll be available for. I'll have to figure out a sustainable method long-term.
Overall - great product. Affordable bolt-on solution for serious stopping power.

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GREAT write-up, pics, and review!! I am about to install the same rear brake kit on my 04 ZTW. Massive says that the kit is lighter, but the hub+caliper+rotor feel heavier than what the drum+shoes+backing plate. What did you think? Was the kit lighter or heavier? Or was it so close you didn't notice? My only real concern is adding more unsprung weight at each wheel and what effect it will have on the stock shock/coil. I am changing out the shocks so would getting the shocks for the SVT model be advised? And maybe the coils too? Any feedback or thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
 

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GREAT write-up, pics, and review!! I am about to install the same rear brake kit on my 04 ZTW. Massive says that the kit is lighter, but the hub+caliper+rotor feel heavier than what the drum+shoes+backing plate. What did you think? Was the kit lighter or heavier? Or was it so close you didn't notice? My only real concern is adding more unsprung weight at each wheel and what effect it will have on the stock shock/coil. I am changing out the shocks so would getting the shocks for the SVT model be advised? And maybe the coils too? Any feedback or thoughts would be greatly appreciated!
I didn't notice a huge weight loss. I progressively built my car up for track days only. Along the way, I'd say for daily driving on today's roads, I'd stop at the SVT springs and shocks.
Harsh ride as you move to stiffer springs.
Not sure what is different with the wagon, as far as fitment, though.
Do research on what brake pads you want to run. The pads that come with the kit are cheap.
Lighter wheels would probably have more impact than weight savings on the brakes. Some of those wheels out there are heavy.
 

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I didn't notice a huge weight loss. I progressively built my car up for track days only. Along the way, I'd say for daily driving on today's roads, I'd stop at the SVT springs and shocks.
Harsh ride as you move to stiffer springs.
Not sure what is different with the wagon, as far as fitment, though.
Do research on what brake pads you want to run. The pads that come with the kit are cheap.
Lighter wheels would probably have more impact than weight savings on the brakes. Some of those wheels out there are heavy.
Lighter wheels as well as two piece rotors which Wilwood offers a 11.75'' rear rotors that work w/ the oem rear calipers, You'll need to fab a bracket to place the calipers a little higher. A great upgrade is SS brake hoses as well. Yea the parking brake cable just fits length wise......Add 13'' two piece Bear rotors to front as well & yeah the Baer 6 piston calipers do clear the 17'' svt wheels.......
 

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As of June 2020 ..... the Massive rear brake kit MAY not work with an OEM Ford split 8-spoke (16 spoke) 15" wheel. Contact Massive before buying.
 
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