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Leeching Wireless Internet is a pedophile's trick that is very common. I haven't read the whole story yet but it's very common for pedo's to drive around in their cars with their laptops and 'leech' a connection to search for child pornography. Pretty pathetic but they for the most part get away with it......
 

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You can be arrested for stealing an internet connection? That's news to me. I used to steal my neighbor's faster cable connection when I wanted the extra speed or when ours was being flaky - but he moved, so it's back to just our network. I figured as long as it's brief usage and not draining a huge portion of his bandwidth, he'd never know.

As for this guy who got arrested, he sounds like an idiot. Wouldn't most people LEAVE after the first incidence of the homeowner coming out to check on you? This guy hung around far too long. It's obvious you're up to no good when you're just hanging out in your car in front of some stranger's house for hours at a time.
 

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Probably worried more about a security issues than theft... but what d I know
 

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Perhaps I should not leech the net on my PDA then.

Seriously, I didn't think it would be a crime, just secure the connection if you don't want it to be shared.

I have no idea what is exactly the "ethical" thing to do, hee hee.
 

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I do it all the time. But, I am also not looking at what MJ does. If your not doing it for any kind of illegal activity then I'm sure it is OK. I haven't heard of it being in the law books yet.
 

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Whether you believe it is right or wrong is irrelevant. It is theft of service, which is against the law. Now, that being said, it is also the account holder's responsibility to secure their own connections.

I was talking to my neighboor and I told him his wireless access point was wide open. He said "I don't keep anything important on my computer." I said, "Fair enough." and left it at that. Later that night, I sniffed his traffic and sent him an email, from his own email account, with several of his passwords - along with a note that he should really enable WEP and change his passwords. Did he? Why yes, yes he did. Remember, it isn't that someone else is using your connection, it's more what they can do with it. Kiddie porn is one of the darker aspects, but that's just the tip of the iceberg.

If you use unencrypted wireless, you are just asking for trouble.
 

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Actually its not that hard to crack WEP...

There are programs that "ferret" packets being transmitted from the WAP to the clients, and if it intercepts enough of them it can crack the WEP. The only truly secure setup is to use defined MAC address DHCP...then even if they get the WEP key they can't get on the system without knowing a MAC address that's already defined. Good luck cracking that...
 

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im not sure but dont free standing starbucks have wireless web avalible to there customers? couldnt you just go sit at starbucks or go in a starbucks parking lot?

i think thats kinda weak sauce on behalf of the guy who is getting in trouble. i wouldnt like it if someone was parked in front of my house using my wireless web. altho i dont have wireless web, if i did i think it would be spooky.
 

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Starbucks is a t-mobile hot spot. You have to pay to acces it. There are other like that too that you have to pay for.
 

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Actually its not that hard to crack WEP...

There are programs that "ferret" packets being transmitted from the WAP to the clients, and if it intercepts enough of them it can crack the WEP. The only truly secure setup is to use defined MAC address DHCP...then even if they get the WEP key they can't get on the system without knowing a MAC address that's already defined. Good luck cracking that...
Yes, that's true, but it is significantly harder to crack 128 bit WEP encryption. And with the plethora of open wireless networks, it easier for leet script kiddie hax0r to move on to an open wireless network when they encounter an encrypted one.
 

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I didn't know you paid for Starbucks wifi!

I think Borders has it now too, they might be advertising it as free...

The dude is definitely stupid and a little creepy. Jeez, for the convenience of Not having to drive around and park outside people's houses wouldn't you drop the $90 or whatever for a wireless router?!
 

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Assuming he could foot the bill for a high speed connection?

Perhaps it was a fetish of his.

"I'm a dirty whore for stealing someone else's internet connection!! Someone spank me. Daddy needs it!"

Then again, maybe he was just sending spam.
 

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I know it's wrong to steal a person's internet connection, but I'm still surprised that's an arrestable offense. Personally in my case I really didn't care... I didn't like my neighbor anyway so I didn't feel bad for using his unsecured connection that was three times faster than mine. Usurping some bandwidth is a lot nicer than shooting his dog that barked at everything (seriously; once I exhaled too loud while taking a large breath at night while laying in bed with the window open and his dog started barking). [:D]
 

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I am very confused here, and I know I'm very ignorant too. Can someone please explain to me how do you know if you have a secure or non-secure connection?
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If its secure, you have to put a key in before you can connect. If not, its not secure.

Of course, once you put the key in your computer remembers it, so you really only have to put it in once. The only other way to find out is to go into your router's control panel and check what its set to...usually you can access it by going to 192.168.0.1 or 172.16.0.1 in a web browser. If neither of those work, go to start>run and type in "cmd", then type "ipconfig" in the command prompt and look for your "default gateway" and put that in a web browser...beyond that, every router is different. If you don't know what you're doing I wouldn't go messing around with the settings...you could really screw everything up in a hurry.
 

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Personally, I think this situation is ridiculous....the guy should have been cited for loitering or something, but not for using an available internet connection. Had the guy hacked into something, that's a little different.

I'm very interested to see what becomes of this.
 

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I'm sure this was in some upper-middle class community where the police have time to do stuff like this and come out every time some old lady calls and says there's "negroes" walking down the street, or can send four cruisers and a paddy wagon to a drugstore to arrest a 14 year old shoplifter at gunpoint like he's a serial killer (I've seen both...quite sad.)

Its pathetic...if you don't want your wireless internet connection to be easily accessable to anyone with a laptop and wireless network card, spend the five minutes it takes to put security measures into effect.

I also love the fact that since this guy was on somebody else's internet connection, we can safely assume he's some serial sex offender who looks up child porn in his spare time.

I know I'll sleep better tonight knowing that people who "wardrive" are being prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law...
 
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