I tried to take that into account when I measured. I used a meter stick holding it onto the arm rest and setting the (zero) end to the edge of the silver insert on the knob when in 3rd. Then I pulled it into 4th without moving the meter stick and getting a measure of about 5.25 inches. After this I raised the whole assembly up and re-zeroed and remeasured. I swore I got about 4.125 inches for the modified throw. I could check again but I kinda buggered the phillips head due to a worn out screwdriver so I don't want to mess with it any more than needed.dan81 said:I thought the throw was much shorter at first, then I noticed that as you move the ball joint up, the shifter moves foward significantly, so now 4th is ~ where neutral used to be.