[PumkinSvt]

can someone please help me,

I recently installed my clutch this weekend and when I shift into
3rd gear it grinds but goes into gear.

can it be my syncros going out?

I need help to figure this out!

it sucks having to skip 3rd gear!!

 

[PumkinSvt]

Anyone??? =(

 

[Weldman0730]

Did you have problems before you installed the clutch?

 

[PumkinSvt]

no sir I did not.

 

[whynotthinkwhynot]

Bleed the clutch slave cylinder again, that's about all I can think of. Third always seems to be most sensitive to slow clutch engagement. That's all I can think of.

 

[Weldman0730]

hmmm I was hoping you said you did(well hopefully you never have problems) because it would definatly then be the syncro. Since you have a SVT im not exactly an expert on the 6 speed, I have a MTX and know a bit more about that, but still no expert, but ill give her a shot.

You do have enough oil in it right, I know when I replaced my clutch I drove it for a bit and then checked again and the oil was down a bit(probably got into crevices and places where it couldnt without the tranny being spun), but it still makes no sense that you cant even shift into third, and oil probably has nothing to do with that unless your tranny is completly dry, but then again no gears would work for long that way.

I think it is a high possibility of being a syncro...Ill check my repair manual and see what it says, ill be back in a few hours.

 

[PumkinSvt]

I can get it into 3rd but it grinds while I do that,

and whynot the clutch is grabbing good.

I heard it might be the shift linkages so am gona mess with that 2night

 

[whynotthinkwhynot]

Grabbing and not engaging are two different things. The clutch grabs when the pressure plate is let off and the strong springs in the pressure plate apply pressure to the friction plate. The slave cylinder pushes on the forks of the pressure plate releasing pressure from the friction plate.

Engaged clutch, engaged slave clyinder= disengaged transmission

If you have some air in the slave cylinder- which you would only have if you replaced it, or released fluid for some reason- would be like spongy brakes. The action would not be the same at the slave cylinder, it would be slow to push in the pressure plate.

Bleeding doesn't cost money, but if you don't have any reason to bleed, then you must have a bad synchronizer.

 

[PumkinSvt]

Grabbing and not engaging are two different things. The clutch grabs when the pressure plate is let off and the strong springs in the pressure plate apply pressure to the friction plate. The slave cylinder pushes on the forks of the pressure plate releasing pressure from the friction plate.

Engaged clutch, engaged slave clyinder= disengaged transmission

If you have some air in the slave cylinder- which you would only have if you replaced it, or released fluid for some reason- would be like spongy brakes. The action would not be the same at the slave cylinder, it would be slow to push in the pressure plate.

Bleeding doesn't cost money, but if you don't have any reason to bleed, then you must have a bad synchronizer.

The clutch pedal is solid and I bled the clutch, but wouldnt it be hard for all the gears 2 go in?

 

[whynotthinkwhynot]

Like I mentioned, for some reason third seems to be most sensitive- in my experiences. I wouldn't rule out a synchro problem, just double check it.

 

[PumkinSvt]

ok thanks I will check that 2. but hopefully its not a synchro

 

[Weldman0730]

Well unfortunatly the book doesnt say anything about not going into gear, except syncros "which the average home mechanic should not attempt to fix."

 

[Grumpy]

I agree with whynotthinkwhynot. If you did not have the problem before the clutch replacement then it more than likely is an issue with the clutch not fully disengageing. Try the suggested rebleed first. Also, with a new clutch you obviously have brand new clutch friction material which is also at it's thickest, and it will also have some surface variation which will "true up" after a few "takeoffs" and use of the clutch, which may help.

 

[PumkinSvt]

I already have 220 miles on it so I dont know we will see.

i have a few ideas.

 

[Weldman0730]

The true break in though is something like 400 miles I belive