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Explain to me what? The fact you bought a POS and now its the companies fault? Theres been a recall. Theres been every effort to make it right albeit inconvenient for customers. Recalls are total tax right offs for car manifacturers so whatever "punishment " you have in mind will only be passed on. Label me the troll all you want im not the one pushing my car to work. Not unsympathetic just dont appreciate the negativity having a different OPINION . but like children get butt hurt over it why dont ya.


There’s been a recall for 2012-2016 Focus & Fiesta DCT’s? Would you happen to have a link to that ‘recall’? I must have missed it.

Ford’s made “every effort to make it right?” Maybe you’ve missed some of the recent articles that have come out regarding Ford & how they knowingly kept selling the faulty transmissions after 2012.

Having an opinion is fine however insulting DCT owners & talking about recalls that never existed is ridiculous.



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I misspoke about a recall. But there are Tsbs. Not to mention an additional warranty and other efforts by Ford.no there was no conspiracy or cover up if there were there would be no tsbs addressing it. I think someone needs a remedial english course what I said was indeed an opinion you dont have to like it nor does it even have to be true thats what an opinion is! Grow up **** pants
 

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I misspoke about a recall. But there are Tsbs. Not to mention an additional warranty and other efforts by Ford.no there was no conspiracy or cover up if there were there would be no tsbs addressing it. I think someone needs a remedial english course what I said was indeed an opinion you dont have to like it nor does it even have to be true thats what an opinion is! Grow up **** pants
There's been news articles on it from Ford documents so it's not a conspiracy. All a TSB does is address there is an issue, it sometimes does not come with a fix and it puts the repair costs still in the customer's wallet indefinitely.
 

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I misspoke about a recall. But there are Tsbs. Not to mention an additional warranty and other efforts by Ford.no there was no conspiracy or cover up if there were there would be no tsbs addressing it. I think someone needs a remedial english course what I said was indeed an opinion you dont have to like it nor does it even have to be true thats what an opinion is! Grow up **** pants


Trust me man, all of these recent ‘extended warranty’ coverage letters on the transmissions that have been sent out have nothing to do with providing a service to its customers. What a joke. These letters are a direct result of all the recent media backlash Ford has taken because they knowingly kept selling these vehicles after 2012 without fixing the transmissions.

Keep in mind that just a few months ago Ford wanted me to pay $2200 out of pocket for a new clutch. And now ‘an extended warranty’ for 7/100 or by Feb 2020 letter has been sent out after all of the media scrutiny Ford has taken? Haha!! This has nothing to do with helping consumers, but has EVERYTHING to do with trying to protect their image & potential class actions down the road.



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I misspoke about a recall. But there are Tsbs. Not to mention an additional warranty and other efforts by Ford.no there was no conspiracy or cover up if there were there would be no tsbs addressing it. I think someone needs a remedial english course what I said was indeed an opinion you dont have to like it nor does it even have to be true thats what an opinion is! Grow up **** pants
Haha, what a tool. I can't imagine the complete lack of independent thought that leads to being a corporate apologist.

But hey, I guess it's a free country. You're entitled to your dumb opinion and your lame justifications for it.
 

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Ford isn't "in trouble" over the DCT. They'll continue to use their army of lawyers to slow roll this as owners dump their cars on the next owner, or choose not to pay out of pocket to fix the shyte trans. I owned a few Accords before getting a Focus. Honda had major trans issues years ago. They extended the warranty on some and quietly replaced others, but the problem eventually went away (for Honda) as the cars aged and died off.
 

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Ford isn't "in trouble" over the DCT. They'll continue to use their army of lawyers to slow roll this as owners dump their cars on the next owner, or choose not to pay out of pocket to fix the shyte trans. I owned a few Accords before getting a Focus. Honda had major trans issues years ago. They extended the warranty on some and quietly replaced others, but the problem eventually went away (for Honda) as the cars aged and died off.
I do agree with you (especially in America, where the welfare of corporations are put above the welfare of the public), but in comparison to your Honda story, was there proof that Honda knew the transmissions were defective before putting them into production and did they continue to use them for 8 years after the fact?

I would argue that the real difference in this situation is that Ford was caught lying. They can't just pretend like it's a crappy transmission and they're sorry about it.

Now, do I think that's going to translate in a mass buyback of every DPS6-equipped Focus and Fiesta on the road? And/or major damages being paid to customers who were blatantly lied to about the DPS6? Nope. Not at all.

I do believe Ford will get hit with damages, and that it will be more than $200 or whatever BS amount was available to customers in the last (tossed) class action. If the NHTSA comes back with a finding that the DPS6 is defective and dangerous, then Ford will have to replace them with something else (or buy back the car), at which point I think we'll see a slushbox option. If that happens, I doubt there will be a manual replacement option, as Ford sold us "automatics"...though perhaps they'll make it work for anyone who says they bought the car for the fuel economy and is willing to agree to a manual.

I think a lot hinges on the NHTSA findings.
 

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I would argue that the real difference in this situation is that Ford was caught lying. They can't just pretend like it's a crappy transmission and they're sorry about it.
Yes, this is different. In my Honda example, I don't think the company was ever accused/proven of lying.

I'm guessing that Ford will have to pay damages, and I'm guessing that after the lawyers take their cut, DCT owners will get a ridiculous $5 check or discount offers on new Ford vehicles. I hope I'm wrong.
 

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Yes, this is different. In my Honda example, I don't think the company was ever accused/proven of lying.

I'm guessing that Ford will have to pay damages, and I'm guessing that after the lawyers take their cut, DCT owners will get a ridiculous $5 check or discount offers on new Ford vehicles. I hope I'm wrong.
Oh, yeah, the only real winners here are the lawyers. As usual.

I'm generally pretty cynical, but I truly believe the terms of the class action - because there will absolutely be another one - will be quite a bit better than the last (and apply to more people). Of course, that's a low bar, but it is what it is.
 

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How are these vehicles not eligible for Lemon Law buybacks? It’s a legit question, considering customers have continued taking these cars in over & over again for clutch replacements & nothing gets fixed. Now fast forward to 2019 & Ford gets called out on social media & on the news for continuing to sell these DCT’s knowing that the transmissions were faulty? Maybe someone knows the answer, but multiple repair attempts over the years & no permanent fix sounds like a Lemon to me?



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How are these vehicles not eligible for Lemon Law buybacks? It’s a legit question, considering customers have continued taking these cars in over & over again for clutch replacements & nothing gets fixed. Now fast forward to 2019 & Ford gets called out on social media & on the news for continuing to sell these DCT’s knowing that the transmissions were faulty? Maybe someone knows the answer, but multiple repair attempts over the years & no permanent fix sounds like a Lemon to me?
According to IL's attorney general:

have a nonconformity that both substantially impairs the use , market value or safety of the vehicle and is not repairable by the dealer or manufacturer in at least four attempts for the same repair, or

be out of service for a total of 30 or more business days.

The Lemon Law DOES Cover:
New Cars (purchased or leased)
Light Trucks and vans under 8,000 pounds
Recreational vehicles (excluding trailers)
Vehicles in their first 12 months or 12,000 miles, whichever occurs first
Vehicles purchased in Illinois

The Lemon Law DOES NOT Cover:
Used Cars
Altered or modified vehicles
Motorcycles and boats


By the time 12K miles has passed, most of the DCT issues arise after.
 

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Last Ford I'll Buy

Prior and Current owners of these cars will receive absolutely Nothing..
Obviously this Transmission horror story has went on way longer than it should have.
In referencing the last offer Ford released, which is the extension of the transmission warranty to 100k, That's It, No More.
Lawsuits and reviews will drag this out until all the cars left on the road are past 100k or disposed of.
Forget it, "NOTHING" will benefit any owner going forward.
Ford is in the drivers seat now.
You're 100% correct which is why the 2013 Focus (albatross) I have now will be the last Ford I'll ever buy. I had given the brand some of my money in the past, 86 Ranger, 93 Ranger, 2000 Sporttrac, 05 Focus, 06 F150, 13 Focus and 13 Escape. There will be no more money given to Ford from this point forward.
 

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You're 100% correct which is why the 2013 Focus (albatross) I have now will be the last Ford I'll ever buy. I had given the brand some of my money in the past, 86 Ranger, 93 Ranger, 2000 Sporttrac, 05 Focus, 06 F150, 13 Focus and 13 Escape. There will be no more money given to Ford from this point forward.
I miss those old Rangers. I grew up with my Grandpa driving around in them. Reliable and easy to fix. We always had 4 cyl manuals and my GP was tough on them. We hauled loads of heavy office equipment we would buy form state auctions. He replaced those tranny's like most people replace brake pads :).
 

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I miss those old Rangers. I grew up with my Grandpa driving around in them. Reliable and easy to fix. We always had 4 cyl manuals and my GP was tough on them. We hauled loads of heavy office equipment we would buy form state auctions. He replaced those tranny's like most people replace brake pads :).
I had a basic 88 Ranger I4/5spd. Reliable and cheap/easy to repair.
Don't get me wrong, there's been a lot of improvement in engine tech in 30 years, giving us engines that are better in almost every way - they're lighter, faster, more efficient, and more powerful - and I appreciate those improvements. But...it doesn't get much simpler than those older Rangers, and there is something to be said for simple. I'd jump on one of I stumbled across one for sale at a reasonable price.
 

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But...it doesn't get much simpler than those older Rangers, and there is something to be said for simple. I'd jump on one of I stumbled across one for sale at a reasonable price.
I think I could have kept mine running forever for very little money. Underpowered as hell, but the entire powertrain never gave me issues.
 

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I had an '87 4WD 4-cyl 5-speed Ranger too. I abused it too with some heavy loads. Once I lent it to a friend who didn't know much about load capacity and she filled the bed almost to the brim with clay soil and the suspension had almost zero travel left and the tires looked like they were going to explode. That was one scary ride to limp it to the dump site but it recovered nicely. I did do a clutch job on it at one point. Not bad but I remember the pilot bearing being stuck and we had to cut it out.
 

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Prior and Current owners of these cars will receive absolutely Nothing..
Obviously this Transmission horror story has went on way longer than it should have.
In referencing the last offer Ford released, which is the extension of the transmission warranty to 100k, That's It, No More.
Lawsuits and reviews will drag this out until all the cars left on the road are past 100k or disposed of.
Forget it, "NOTHING" will benefit any owner going forward.
Ford is in the drivers seat now.
This is the truth though. Ford will do nothing until every Mk3s are past 100k miles. Which by then they're worth jack s***. Most people would have had their cars traded in within three years too, at least from my metropolitan friends.

Lawsuits won't benefit anyone but the lawyers anyways. We all know the drill. As for how big companies don't care for customers, it is not just limited to Ford too:

The only way I see it is that we no longer make purchase on new first year model cars. Buy a car once they've been out for a year (or even two years) with no major issues. Heck I'd wait until refresh year. It is tempting to get the latest and the greatest, but in the world of more complicated designs which complicates accountability, why be the beta tester?
 
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