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Thinking about trading in your Focus on a gas guzzler? Don't! It would seem that Ford's timing of the release of the all new aluminum bodied F-150 pickup and the 3 cylinder Ecoboost Focus in North America is bad but Ford sees the gas situation as temporary.

“Clearly we’re seeing some of the supply and demand statistics play out and we’re seeing low fuel prices, we may see that for a certain amount of time but our medium and long term view is that they will go up”

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-ceo--gas-price-will-increase-131330900.html
 

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This is all politics. People didn't just suddenly stop driving and they haven't found a huge new source of oil to quickly deplete.
 

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Isn't this kind of a "duh?"

We haven't created new sources of the stuff, we're still running out, and global demand is still on the rise.
Of *course* its going to go back up...
 

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Isn't this kind of a "duh?"

We haven't created new sources of the stuff, we're still running out, and global demand is still on the rise.
Of *course* its going to go back up...
With skyrocketing fuel price! Another fuel crisis soon??
 

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Actually, from a business standpoint, it serves him better to say that low gas is here to stay.
Buy more Powerstrokes and Expeditions!
They'd make the stockholders more money...
 

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Actually, from a business standpoint, it serves him better to say that low gas is here to stay.
Buy more Powerstrokes and Expeditions!
They'd make the stockholders more money...
Actually it's bad ... especially all the F-150 weight saving they tried to do (see all aluminium frame)
 

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Actually, from a business standpoint, it serves him better to say that low gas is here to stay.
Buy more Powerstrokes and Expeditions!
They'd make the stockholders more money...
Not if people abandon the payments and Ford finance has to spend money trying to recoop the loses.
 

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That's always a possibility, though and depends more on the economy as a whole. It really has nothing to do with gas prices.


I'm a little confused, ElCouz. Do you think you're disagreeing with me?
 

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That's always a possibility, though and depends more on the economy as a whole. It really has nothing to do with gas prices.


I'm a little confused, ElCouz. Do you think you're disagreeing with me?
Ford tried to squeeze every MPG possible in their F-150(hint: its the principal revenue source). They are loosing the market share of trucks to Dodge Ram.

They introduced the aluminum frame (costly investment) and the ecoboost engine is their main selling one.

Now that the gas is cheap it doesn't make any sense now (the investment they did)

People have a short term memory... yes they are selling now powerstroke or big v8 triton but in the end they loose...All the research and development for nothing.

Low ROI... That's what they are afraid of!
 

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The frame on the new F-150 is made of high strength steel. The body is aluminum and that is where the weight savings come from.
 

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The frame on the new F-150 is made of high strength steel. The body is aluminum and that is where the weight savings come from.
The change to aluminum for the F-150 body is a huge gamble for Ford. They are tampering with their bread and butter. There was already a lot of skepticism about how well the aluminum skin would hold up under contractor use. The huge dip in gas prices coinciding with the release of the aluminum truck may put a dent in sales if formerly loyal F-150 owners jump ship. Keep in mind that Ford has to plan for their long term CAFE goals. Weight reduction is a necessity.

"Will the flannel-wearing masses follow Ford into the land of aluminum? Probably, but there might be some hesitancy, experts say."

http://fortune.com/2015/01/06/can-an-aluminum-f-150-win-over-blue-collar-truck-buyers/
 

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I actually think low gas prices portends ill for the economy. we'll see in a year or so
Gas was low all through the 90s--one of the strongest economic runs we've ever had...
 

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Thinking about trading in your Focus on a gas guzzler? Don't! It would seem that Ford's timing of the release of the all new aluminum bodied F-150 pickup and the 3 cylinder Ecoboost Focus in North America is bad but Ford sees the gas situation as temporary.

“Clearly we’re seeing some of the supply and demand statistics play out and we’re seeing low fuel prices, we may see that for a certain amount of time but our medium and long term view is that they will go up”

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ford-ceo--gas-price-will-increase-131330900.html
Dang it. Just ordered an F950. (just kidding and they don't go up to 950).
 

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Dang it. Just ordered an F950. (just kidding and they don't go up to 950).
Bad news for you it goes up to F-1350.... [thankyou] [grinking]




Sir, please sign for the delivery of your F-950...

EDIT: BTW, F-950 did exist in the 60's

In 1960, Ford re-branded the heaviest-GVWR versions of the F-Series (F-950) as Super Duty models
 

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Bad news for you it goes up to F-1350.... [thankyou] [grinking]




Sir, please sign for the delivery of your F-950...

EDIT: BTW, F-950 did exist in the 60's
Interesting. I remember the L series, then the sale to (International?) re-branded as Sterling.

Correction: Freightliner...
 
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