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No problem. Going around noon tomorrow to check it out. Let you know!
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Have another question. I got the fogs installed, and freefocus got me a switch. Since my car is an SE, does it come with the plug where I can hook a wiring harness up to? Or since my car did not come with a harness installed (for the fogs), do I HAVE to drill through the fire wall and install it to the switch myself?
I know that there is a HOW-TO on creating your own fog light harness. But where would I plug it into?
Thanks guys. Ideally, I wanted to hook these up as daytime running lights. They would come on automatically when the key was turned into the on position. I know that the switch I got defeats that purpose and makes the fogs manual. What is the best way to do it the way I want? An "Add a Circuit" to the fuse panel? I'm open for any suggestions or comments to what I want to do.
Thanks guys.
I know that there is a HOW-TO on creating your own fog light harness. But where would I plug it into?
Thanks guys. Ideally, I wanted to hook these up as daytime running lights. They would come on automatically when the key was turned into the on position. I know that the switch I got defeats that purpose and makes the fogs manual. What is the best way to do it the way I want? An "Add a Circuit" to the fuse panel? I'm open for any suggestions or comments to what I want to do.
Thanks guys.
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Add a fuse is an awesome thing. I don't know if you can hook dogs up to them.
My car is an SE as well. I had to drill through my cars firewall. Killed me to do it. I had to unless you find a way to get it through the where the clutch pedal would be somewhere I think it will be tricky to set it up with the factory headlight switch.
My car is an SE as well. I had to drill through my cars firewall. Killed me to do it. I had to unless you find a way to get it through the where the clutch pedal would be somewhere I think it will be tricky to set it up with the factory headlight switch.
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Yeah but I had bought a wiring harness so I got it to work after a trial time of wondering that goes where.
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hmmm... i'm stuck. Not sure what to do now. I'd like to say screw the switch (I'd still buy it off of you since you got it for me, obviously) and run it to an "add a circuit" that would come on when I turn the key on the on position (such as wipers). But that leaves me with two
- Would a relay still be required? I'm guessing yes?
- If I do go the fog light switch route (ford dimmer switch), does anyone know which pins I would either place the pins into or which wires I'd splice off for the fogs? I'm also guessing that I would not splice into anything since pulling the switch outwards would require its own pinout(s).
Thanks for any help!
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If you dont need the switch I can return it, as it hasnt been shipped or anything yet, you let me know on that. If you want to try it then go for it, You could always then add it to your list of things to sell.
I am thinking about turning my fogs to also work as turnsignals and do away with the lights in the grill.
When i put in my wiring harness I had to add2 new wires in to the old harness, but i think i am remembering wrong. Anyway, I would assume you would need a relay, but maybe just a rocker switch would be easier to do, just dont forget to turn them off.
I am thinking about turning my fogs to also work as turnsignals and do away with the lights in the grill.
When i put in my wiring harness I had to add2 new wires in to the old harness, but i think i am remembering wrong. Anyway, I would assume you would need a relay, but maybe just a rocker switch would be easier to do, just dont forget to turn them off.
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hmmm........
Why couldn't my car just come with the harness?!?!?! It's an SE for god's sake! Mine had to be part of the SE family that didn't come with it. Ughhh
Ok. Well I'll still buy it off of you. I do not know what I am going to do yet to be honest. I already have a dimmer switch I put in for my interior led's. Hate to continue popping holes into things and would like to avoid it if necessary.
I'm looking for a good how-to that would fit my needs. I could have sworn I saw someone that had done a how-to on creating the whole fog light wiring harness with the umbilical and everything, but can't find it.
I looked everywhere under my damn car and couldn't find the harness. Man am I p.o.'d over this. Oh well. I'm going to continue to look for that how-to.
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I'm planning on adding 35w 10000k HID fogs to my car. Would it be wise to splice into my turn signal and hook it up to the HID? I know it's not necessarily good to turn HIDs on/off. If I do decide to do it, which of the 3 wires for my turn signal powers the turning function?
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I wish my car ahad come with a harness as well. It really surprises me that you can't find an OEM harness anywhere with it being a newer car and all. I will see what I can find when I have some time.
Hopefully if enough people visit this they might know or someone else will know. Im still waiting on someone to get back with me about puddle lights install.
I agree, less holes is better, but a hole to make fog lights operate rather than eye candy would be awesome. Sometimes you just have to take a break from it and do something else.
Hopefully if enough people visit this they might know or someone else will know. Im still waiting on someone to get back with me about puddle lights install.
I agree, less holes is better, but a hole to make fog lights operate rather than eye candy would be awesome. Sometimes you just have to take a break from it and do something else.
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That is way out of my league. Search the site. If nothing then make another HID thread.
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So i went ahead and typed 07 ford focus wiring harness. There are links to eBay for those wiring harness that you need. It comes with everything that would be in a factory wiring harness though. The one i seen was 100 dollars, another was 50 or so.
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Yeah, I have looked on ebay and am unsure if the connectors would fit the bulbs, unless I changed to LED's or HID's. I'm not sure how that would affect the housings I got, which are these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/370844321468?_trksid=p2060778.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT
I believe that they are H11 bulbs that came with these, but I don't see it saying anything in particular.
How are the HID/LED bulbs in these housings? If I'm going to be doing my own wiring (or purchasing a kit from ebay), which bulb type is best for fogs?
HID? LED? Halogen?
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The fog light assemblies shown appear to be stock replacements, and if such the bulbs should be of the H11 type.
As for what type of bulbs to use, the halogen bulbs would be the easiest to wire up just would need a switch that controls a relay which sends the power to the bulbs, LED bulbs would also be easy to wire up, but depending on the LED bulbs used it may not give an optimal light pattern or be as bright as you would like. As far as HID bulbs go, as long as there is an H11 sized HID bulb it should fit in the housing, however you would have to wire up the HID balast for them which is not overly hard just an extra step and cost.
It all depends on the look you want to go for. Halogen would best match the stock headlights, however if you were upgrading your headlights to HID as well then going with the matching fog bulbs would complete the look.
See http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=281508 for more information on LED vs HID.
As for what type of bulbs to use, the halogen bulbs would be the easiest to wire up just would need a switch that controls a relay which sends the power to the bulbs, LED bulbs would also be easy to wire up, but depending on the LED bulbs used it may not give an optimal light pattern or be as bright as you would like. As far as HID bulbs go, as long as there is an H11 sized HID bulb it should fit in the housing, however you would have to wire up the HID balast for them which is not overly hard just an extra step and cost.
It all depends on the look you want to go for. Halogen would best match the stock headlights, however if you were upgrading your headlights to HID as well then going with the matching fog bulbs would complete the look.
See http://www.focusfanatics.com/forum/showthread.php?t=281508 for more information on LED vs HID.
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Great information, pcordes1979. Thanks.
Hmmm.... I'm stuck. I don't plan on going to HID for my car anytime soon. I'm not exactly sure how much added light the fogs will provide at night time. I'd like to have a little blue tint to them, but unsure. From what I've read in that thread, yellow is the best thing to have for fog lights. But I'm not too thrilled on yellow.
Maybe I'll try the halogens and see how well they look. If need be I'll just retrofit the harness I make/buy if I change my mind later on.
Now I need to find a good how-to on the proper wiring of the switch to relay for me. I'm still trying to weigh my best options for what I want to do. It's either:
- Come on automatically when key is turned to the "ON" position (ideal but don't know how to do this)
- Connect to the stock light switch w/ fog option
- Connect to its own switch (not too thrilled of this option)
I want them to stay on no matter if the high beams are on or not. Anyone have any suggestions or input that could help me figure out my best route?
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Below are pics of the 2006 Focus fog light wiring diagram and the head light connector showing all of the wires. The wires you need to be concerned about are: pin 3 large green/black fog light power out, pin 7 large green/red (marked red in diagram) fog light power, pin 10 black fog light indicator ground.
Check to see if you have wires in all 3 positions otherwise you will have to get a headlight switch wiring connector end from a parts yard and insert the proper wire(s) into your current connector. If you have wires in all 3 positions you can safely cut the wire that comes from pin 3 as you will be making your own harness. If you are missing either pin 7 or pin 10 you will have to add wires for both of those, pin 7 to a hot power source (stock it goes to pin 87A on the high beam relay under the hood) and pin 10 goes to ground.
As you can see the power goes into the headlight-fog light switch at pin 7 which is labeled as red (but is actually Green/Red in my car). Make sure that you have power at pin 7 at all times except when the highbeams are on
So what you will want to do because it does not seem like your car has the rest of the fog light wiring and you will have to make your own, is wire from pin 3 to the coil of a relay (relay pin 85) and wire the other side of the relay coil to ground (relay pin 86), then from the battery run a wire to pin 30 on a relay then run pin 87 to one side of the fog light connectors and the other side to a ground point near each fog light, and pin 87a of the relay leave disconnected. For the wire that goes from relay pin 87 to the fog lights I would actually run 2 wires from it, one for each fog light (so may need to use a 1/4" connector for a larger wire so that both wires can fit into it). For extra protection, you can put an inline fuse holder between the battery and pin 30 on the relay.
On getting the fog lights to stay on if the highbeams are on or not, that would require running an always on power signal to pin 7 on the headlight switch, and if you already have one running there that is on except when the high beams are on just splice in your own wire (and properly insulate the cut wire end that comes from the harness so it doesn't short on anything).
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Pinout goes left to right top row 1-8 bottom row 9-16 in the photographs below and the pinout picture from the FSM is when looking at the face of the connector.
Your wire colors may vary but go by what the wire does not the wire color (the wire and switch in the pics below are from a junkyard vehicle and some of the wire colors are different than in my car and the FSM)
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This last pic shows how I would wire everything up, again some of the wires at the headlight switch connector may be there already, and the view of the headlight switch connector is looking at the face of it.
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Check to see if you have wires in all 3 positions otherwise you will have to get a headlight switch wiring connector end from a parts yard and insert the proper wire(s) into your current connector. If you have wires in all 3 positions you can safely cut the wire that comes from pin 3 as you will be making your own harness. If you are missing either pin 7 or pin 10 you will have to add wires for both of those, pin 7 to a hot power source (stock it goes to pin 87A on the high beam relay under the hood) and pin 10 goes to ground.
As you can see the power goes into the headlight-fog light switch at pin 7 which is labeled as red (but is actually Green/Red in my car). Make sure that you have power at pin 7 at all times except when the highbeams are on
So what you will want to do because it does not seem like your car has the rest of the fog light wiring and you will have to make your own, is wire from pin 3 to the coil of a relay (relay pin 85) and wire the other side of the relay coil to ground (relay pin 86), then from the battery run a wire to pin 30 on a relay then run pin 87 to one side of the fog light connectors and the other side to a ground point near each fog light, and pin 87a of the relay leave disconnected. For the wire that goes from relay pin 87 to the fog lights I would actually run 2 wires from it, one for each fog light (so may need to use a 1/4" connector for a larger wire so that both wires can fit into it). For extra protection, you can put an inline fuse holder between the battery and pin 30 on the relay.
On getting the fog lights to stay on if the highbeams are on or not, that would require running an always on power signal to pin 7 on the headlight switch, and if you already have one running there that is on except when the high beams are on just splice in your own wire (and properly insulate the cut wire end that comes from the harness so it doesn't short on anything).
Pinout goes left to right top row 1-8 bottom row 9-16 in the photographs below and the pinout picture from the FSM is when looking at the face of the connector.
Your wire colors may vary but go by what the wire does not the wire color (the wire and switch in the pics below are from a junkyard vehicle and some of the wire colors are different than in my car and the FSM)
This last pic shows how I would wire everything up, again some of the wires at the headlight switch connector may be there already, and the view of the headlight switch connector is looking at the face of it.
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If you need the wiring harness adaptor to switch I can grab it on the way home. Shipping tomorrow. Hopefully.
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if you're not going out of your way for it that would be great. Give me a final number of both items shipped together and I'll send ya the money tomorrow via PayPal. If not no worries, free.
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Pcordes, you're awesome man. Great information!
What kind of relay so I get (type/model number)? As for everything else I should be able to handle it. Your hands drawn picture makes it hard to screw up! I plan on buying the materials shortly. How come I can't crimp the wires and plug them into the switch in the appropriate pinout locations?
What kind of relay so I get (type/model number)? As for everything else I should be able to handle it. Your hands drawn picture makes it hard to screw up! I plan on buying the materials shortly. How come I can't crimp the wires and plug them into the switch in the appropriate pinout locations?
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