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Hey all - I'm a regular browser of the MK3 forum with a 2015 Ti, come to get your thoughts on my current predicament

Long story short I decided it makes sense for me to upgrade from my '15 Ti to a '18 ST, and the one I found is brand new but has been sitting on a dealer lot for a little over a year. It's a white ST1 with 0 options, which is fine for me (I'll find seats later). I'm not really trying to find any other ones, as this is the only one in the area that fits my budget, needs, and wants.

What I'm wondering is, am I walking into a trap having my local dealer bring the car here for me to look at? Can anyone think of any reason besides the base model nature, which would make 378 days worth of potential buyers walk away, or is this combination just not an in-demand combination? Should I ask them to do anything to this thing before I make the purchase besides a new battery? (I'm in MI, so cold cycles without running the vehicle are a concern) Apparently all warranties apply from date of sale not date of assembly so I should be good there.

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This is a good topic because I’ve often wondered the same thing, with regards to the brakes, battery & tires of new vehicles just sitting & sitting on lots, often times in cold weather or extreme heat climates. I’ve seen many new 2017 RS’s that have been sitting on dealership lots for over 500 days & im shocked but I guess it just goes to show us how much of a limited buyers market there is for an ST & RS.


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If the price is right & its the trim your looking for, then go for it. If your going to swap the seats later, Why not get a st2/st3 then?
 

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Aside from the battery is the GASOLINE. a year old in the tank.
If the car had been started up and driven every few months, probably not a problem.
(How many MILES on the odometer? if it has been driven now and then as demo, should be at least 200 miles, more like 300.. As an example a 2018 in my fav dealer showroom has 124 miles at five months old)
As for 'DEALS' being a year old.. The price should be AMAZING low. like at least $3K off sticker PLUS incentives.
The downside I really thing your buying this car and then 'looking for Recaro seats' is questionable. (unless you hang on the the original ones when you sell the car to put back)
First off the airbags. Then making them work. all that
So I say if you buy the car, keep it stock. Or find the car WITH what you want.

I think a year old car must have something secret as an issue?? Just really odd. Though it may be your area NO ONE drives a stick NO ONE. Period. So it really is a problem car for them just due to demographics? (which means they should be willing to sell at cost!)
 

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Aside from the battery is the GASOLINE. a year old in the tank.
If the car had been started up and driven every few months, probably not a problem.
(How many MILES on the odometer? if it has been driven now and then as demo, should be at least 200 miles, more like 300.. As an example a 2018 in my fav dealer showroom has 124 miles at five months old)
As for 'DEALS' being a year old.. The price should be AMAZING low. like at least $3K off sticker PLUS incentives.
The downside I really thing your buying this car and then 'looking for Recaro seats' is questionable. (unless you hang on the the original ones when you sell the car to put back)
First off the airbags. Then making them work. all that
So I say if you buy the car, keep it stock. Or find the car WITH what you want.

I think a year old car must have something secret as an issue?? Just really odd. Though it may be your area NO ONE drives a stick NO ONE. Period. So it really is a problem car for them just due to demographics? (which means they should be willing to sell at cost!)
Cars on dealers lots are moved around all the time. One to make the inventory look new and refreshed, and two to keep the batteries charged. They also keep the bare minimum of gas in them until sold. Usually enough to move them and a few short test drives. So gas shouldn’t be an issue. The battery is warranted from sale date of the car so no issue there.

I agree on price. If it’s been sitting for a year, I’d want a super deal on it. I’d start at least $1000 below hold back and see what they say and do. I’d also see what they’d throw in. Depending on the dealer and the manager you’d be surprised what you’ll get.

Btw as this is a minimum deal, I’d go in during a slow time so the salesman isn’t losing a deal where they make more. I like them to make money, just not on me, so I try not to waste their time and so they can get me in and out fast. Better yet, I’ve worked deals like this over the phone and walked in, done a fast test drive, do paperwork while it’s prepped and be out in an hour or so.
 

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Have you looked at 2018 ST1 prices lately? Some areas of the country have them in the 18-19k range, which is crazy low, considering most used ST’s are priced higher than that. Why anyone would spend 19k for a 2016 ST, when you can get a new ST for 20k, is beyond me.


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Have you looked at 2018 ST1 prices lately? Some areas of the country have them in the 18-19k range, which is crazy low, considering most used ST’s are priced higher than that. Why anyone would spend 19k for a 2016 ST, when you can get a new ST for 20k, is beyond me.


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People do it all the time.
They hear it’s better to buy used then new due to depreciation. So they don’t shop wisely.

When I bought my Blazer used ones with 50,000 miles or more were selling for $1000 less than a new one. When I bought my first Harley used ones were MORE than new ones. In fact, I sold it 18 months later for $1500 more than I paid for it. I’ve also heard Jeep Wranglers have sold more used than new.

Armed with info one can get a good deal. Without it’s why so many are fleeced.
 

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Have you looked at 2018 ST1 prices lately? Some areas of the country have them in the 18-19k range, which is crazy low, considering most used ST’s are priced higher than that. Why anyone would spend 19k for a 2016 ST, when you can get a new ST for 20k, is beyond me.


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I bought used but because I wanted options and not a stripper model. $22k OTD for a '16 ST3 with 11k miles.
 

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I bought used but because I wanted options and not a stripper model. $22k OTD for a '16 ST3 with 11k miles.




I hear you on the base ST1. I really don’t care much for the ‘SE’ style dash, grey cloth seats & backup screen, however I also really don’t like those high bolstered seats on the ST3. I feel like if Ford would’ve just offered the Titanium infotainment system & seats in the base ST1, then it would’ve sold better, however obviously I realize the prices would’ve been much higher than 20-21k.


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Too bad the ST1 pkg. was never equipped with the infotainment system of the Titanium package. That’s the main reason I never bought the ST. I just could never get over the SE style dash with all of the buttons. Sure, the ST2/ST3 package gives you the Titanium dash, but then you’re stuck with those high bolstered seats. Ingot Silver Metallic should of also been a color in 2015 & up models.


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Update

Hey y'all - my dealer ended up finding a brand new black ST1 that was only a few months old that I purchased and am in love with. I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't like the ST2/ST3 seats...being a below-average-sized human being, I'm not a huge fan of the high bolstering.

Thanks for all the advice and information!
 

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Update

Hey y'all - my dealer ended up finding a brand new black ST1 that was only a few months old that I purchased and am in love with. I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't like the ST2/ST3 seats...being a below-average-sized human being, I'm not a huge fan of the high bolstering.

Thanks for all the advice and information!
[hihi] below average sized human. It's usually the above average size humans (girth) that complained more often about the seats. Happy to hear you are super pleased with the car though, I dont care what seats you get as long as you having fun in the ST.
 

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Hey y'all - my dealer ended up finding a brand new black ST1 that was only a few months old that I purchased and am in love with. I'm glad I'm not the only one that doesn't like the ST2/ST3 seats...being a below-average-sized human being, I'm not a huge fan of the high bolstering.



Thanks for all the advice and information!




Congrats! I love the ST in black, but it’s a lot of work! But I’ve always thought the black looks fantastic with the red ST logos. How are you liking it so far?



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Congrats! I love the ST in black, but it’s a lot of work! But I’ve always thought the black looks fantastic with the red ST logos. How are you liking it so far?



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I'm really loving it; the black is actually an incentive for me to keep it washed even though it will get dirty again in the MI winters. At least it stops it from getting too out of hand, cleanliness-wise.
As far as performance, I'm loving the added power over my Ti but the Blizzaks are really limiting as far as the fun-factor on dry pavement, so I'm really looking forward to spring when I can get the summers back on it.
 

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This week I purchased a new black 2018 Focus ST1. My local dealer had it shipped in from another dealership 220 miles away. It had been on the other dealers lot for 432 days. The car had 20 miles on it when it left the original dealership.

I had concerns of the tires being flat spotted and or some paint damage or such, but then being new any issues would be taken care of under warranty.

The car did have a harmonic bounce/shake to it when I drove it which got worse when the tires were filled to the PSI listed on the door pillar. I took it back to my selling dealer who jumped on it right away. I told them it felt like either the rear tires were badly out of balance, the tires were flat spotted, or it had a bent rear rim.

Turned out to be tires out of balance.

Over all I am extremely pleased with the car, the selling dealership and the price paid after rebates, $17,664 plus TT&L.

Interesting side note. When the car was ordered in from the original dealership it went online in the inventory of the selling dealership. They told me that they have had 3 phone calls of individuals who wanted to come purchase the car. And no, the dealer inventory price was not what I paid. That price was much higher.....LOL!!
 

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A good wash, clay bar it, a good polish, sealant, w/ a carnauba wax topper.....http://autogeek.com I like the Wolfgang products using Griots Boss15 & the Boss m/f pads.....
 

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A good wash, clay bar it, a good polish, sealant, w/ a carnauba wax topper.....http://autogeek.com I like the Wolfgang products using Griots Boss15 & the Boss m/f pads.....
And plenty of Elbow Grease, but with a very light touch on the black paint. Come to think of it the temps are going to be in the high 70's to 80 this week.
 

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And plenty of Elbow Grease, but with a very light touch on the black paint. Come to think of it the temps are going to be in the high 70's to 80 this week.
No elbow grease needed w/ a machine & I'm not talking rotary's either...A random orbital machine using good products would really surprise you. If your really wanting to take care of your car & having look better then new, its really easy w/ quality products & I'm not talking the autoparts store products either. There are machines out there that are really smooth to operate & that have 12-15-21 mm throws. Griots & Rupes as well as Flex has great machines. I'd go w/ a 12- 15 mm machine as your not doing big panels that'd justify a 21. You'll also find that you don't need to go 3-5 steps either. There are compounds out there that'll finish like a last step finish....Jump on http://autogeek.com as Mike Phillips has a lot of videos on how to's as well as the machines, pads, products, ect. btw I'm on the sister site, http://autopia-carecar.com
 
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