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i was wondering if anybody has tried to remove the the inner peice in the intake that the maf sensor sits in. if i could remove thet and get more air in there with out it messing it up that would be great. feedback thanks[thumb]
 

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maybe you should take a pic so that everyone can see what you want to do, and help you
 

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i will take pics when i get home. but to go into more detail, you have the first peice of tube the connets to the tb , then you have the seccond peice that connects to the first peice and has the filter on the end . im talking about the first peice , the inner part of the tube were the maf sensor sits in. if you ave a f2 cai and you look you will see that right at the maf sensor in the inner part of the tube they glued some kind of insert in there that i think i my restrick air flow unless the maf sensor needs that unsert to perform . i dont know if this helped at all?
 

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youd need to retune it, itll run like garbage without that insert
 
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Egz its like the cossie where they put the aluminum insert at the maf to reduce flow, its not a 3" opening at the maf. The F2 CAI does the same they have a plastic insert at the maf to reduce flow, like the stock maf tube.

If you pull it out it wouldnt run right since the stock maf is set for the stock size opening. You would have to get a new maf and a tune for it to work.
 

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Ah, that piece. Yea, don't remove that.
 

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yeah, that was why they had the issue on the previous version, so they redesigned it to what it is now. some units like FS use the stock maf tube. it has to do with the volume of air that the maf sensor is set for. thing is really sensitive.
 

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ahhhhh, that sucks . but thanks for the info guys, im just tryin to find out a way for the car to get more air. im going to take the f2 off this winter and polish the inside of it and see if i can get it to flow smoother. there is always a way to inprove things just taks a lil time.
 

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do u already have an aftermarket TB?
 

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ahhhhh, that sucks . but thanks for the info guys, im just tryin to find out a way for the car to get more air. im going to take the f2 off this winter and polish the inside of it and see if i can get it to flow smoother. there is always a way to inprove things just taks a lil time.
Unless you have headwork and hot camshafts, you really won't see much of an improvement from all that work.
 

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.0001 cfm improvement....
 

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ok

Egz its like the cossie where they put the aluminum insert at the maf to reduce flow, its not a 3" opening at the maf. The F2 CAI does the same they have a plastic insert at the maf to reduce flow, like the stock maf tube.

If you pull it out it wouldnt run right since the stock maf is set for the stock size opening. You would have to get a new maf and a tune for it to work.
new mass air flow sensor? does anybody have a part number? and im getting a new tb within 2 months. my mods in order is f2 cai, mbrp 2.5 flexback, tb, header, cams, tune. with all that i want to get every hp out of them that i can so if it means doing a lil bit modding to the f2 cai the reach this , im going to do it . i just think there is a way to reach what im looking for with out going f/i. im just looking for realistic goal with my dtec. i will in a couple years buy a block and then build a beast, but as for right now i wana keep it simple. some people dont think cams are simple but anything that is the top half of the motor is simple.
 

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Unless you have headwork and hot camshafts, you really won't see much of an improvement from all that work.
you really won't see much of an improvement from all that work. cams =not alot of work, headwork= my wife can take care of that. if it a lil bit of $$$ and alot of time , thats fine cause im always looking for somthing to work on , on my car. hell i craw under the motor just to lay there some times , its relaxing to me. these cars are like lawnmower motors , so easy to work on after you get the idea of what your doing.
 

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I just think you taking the wrong approach. The MAF sensor is not hardly a restriction, and the amount of money and effort to improve it outweighs the benefits. So you enlarged the opening, now you will have to get someone to edit your MAF lookup table in the computer. They are going to charge you, or you can get the Pro-Racer and do it yourself. Both ways are going to cost a couple hundred dollars. And in the end, you'll end up with 1-2hp, tops. Or, you can use that same money and work on something else.

Honestly, if you want a project that can get you some power, I would work on porting and a light polishing of the head. However, you have to make sure you know what you are doing, or you can make it worse. But do it right, and you'll see some a nice power bump.
 

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egz thaks for the input. i see your kicking over 200 hourses, may i ask how much $$$ do you have invested in you car.
 

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yeah d, i think egz actually has the most powerful n/a on the site. hes a good source of info for power stuff.
 

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Just remember Egz has done internals. He has like 11.6:1 high comp pistons and im not sure if he has new rods or crank. So if you go his direction plan to open up the block.
 
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