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So I got a SE w/o the sport package and im kinda kicking myself in the ass cause of it. Anyways i was just wondering if theres a kit out or something around those lines to convert my drums to discs. Thanks:)
 

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Probably wait for a new Focus to get totalled, then take all the rear brake stuff from the junkyard.

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Many things to consider, ABS Unit, ABS Sensors, ESP program, ABS Program, Traction Control etc etc.
 

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ya thats im thinking lscrx and hopefully it wont be to hard to do
 

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ya thats im thinking lscrx and hopefully it wont be to hard to do
Well this isn't your old Escort where you could swap in all sorts of brakes from other cars... chances are this will be a pretty involved conversion, like dasilvarsa said... youve got a lot more to consider than just the brake rotors/calipers and whatnot.
 

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Agreed...you really have to want rear discs to take all that on. Is it just because of cosmetics? The disc/drum setup stops fine IMO (on the street, at any rate).
 

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If it's not stopping well enough for you.. try flushing the DOT 3 fluid and putting in DOT 5.1. You'll most likely see the braking improvement you're looking for by just doing that. I'm curios to see what you do here because I'm in the same boat. I didn't realize that my Focus didn't have rear discs...
 

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If it's not stopping well enough for you.. try flushing the DOT 3 fluid and putting in DOT 5.1. You'll most likely see the braking improvement you're looking for by just doing that. I'm curios to see what you do here because I'm in the same boat. I didn't realize that my Focus didn't have rear discs...
When i was playing around with "Build your Focus" I noticed no disc brakes in rear for the SE unless I added the "Sport Package" and then I could re-upgrade to 17" alloy wheels too.
I found to my dismay I could not add the "Sport Package" to the Forsted Glass color
Grrr...( I went with the Yellow Blaze and am happy i did.)

Agree changing the fluid to DOT 5 is a great idea.

My last car had antilock brakes and I bleed them through to change to Dot 5 and was suprised at how dirty the old brake fluid was, after just one year.

Andwith antilock brakes, keeping those solenoids clean will save a bundle down the road.
So I plan on doing the Focus brakes to Dot 5 next spring. The best thing about Dot 5 is it does not suck up water, so it lasts longer.
 

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When i was playing around with "Build your Focus" I noticed no disc brakes in rear for the SE unless I added the "Sport Package" and then I could re-upgrade to 17" alloy wheels too.
I found to my dismay I could not add the "Sport Package" to the Forsted Glass color
Grrr...( I went with the Yellow Blaze and am happy i did.)

Agree changing the fluid to DOT 5 is a great idea.

My last car had antilock brakes and I bleed them through to change to Dot 5 and was suprised at how dirty the old brake fluid was, after just one year.

Andwith antilock brakes, keeping those solenoids clean will save a bundle down the road.
So I plan on doing the Focus brakes to Dot 5 next spring. The best thing about Dot 5 is it does not suck up water, so it lasts longer.
I have heard some negatives about DOT5, but I cannot remember them now.

I know it is not hygroscopic, as you mentioned, and it won't take paint off if you spill on a painted surface.... but for some reason, folks have said that it is rather unforgiving, in some way????

If moisture does get into the system (how likely is that) - it is not miscible with the water... and so the water can actually freeze...?

I think pedal feel is different, in some way.

Anybody else know about this?

DOT 4 -- a better type of polyglycol brake fluid -- might be a good choice, with none of the negatives?
 

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Google DOT 5 and get the scoop.
A lot of against DOT 5.
My own experience with DOT 5 in my Contour SVT with the DOT 5 added and bleed through (without cycling it through the antilock system) worked perfectly.
So that car had DOT 5 in it, with antilock brakes, for at least 10 years. And in the winter the antilock would get exercised often (and on purpose)
So I have no fear of adding DOT 5 to my brake system. The only reason i might not is warranty?
So i would use the newer DOT 5.1
Which is more expensive, but is not going to cause any warranty problems that DOT 5 might create?
(Considering all the negative press it gets. Seems a few systems go bad with DOT 5, and some like me, love it.

So as a recomendation , NO to DOT 5 ... YES to DOT 5.1

(though personally if you are using DOT 5 no problem.. Keep using it.)
 

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Strange that US cars use DOT 3 Brake Fluid.
Just Checked mine and it's DOT 4.

Our Cars all have big discs front and rear as standard

Rear, solid discs 271mm x 11mm
Front, ventilated discs 278mm x 25mm

I guess that's why we pay a lot more for the cars, (You get what you pay for)

As far as upgrading the braking system, It would be more practical to trade the car in for a better model that has everything you need.
 

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Google DOT 5 and get the scoop.
A lot of against DOT 5.
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So as a recomendation , NO to DOT 5 ... YES to DOT 5.1

(though personally if you are using DOT 5 no problem.. Keep using it.)
EXACTLY! DOT 5.1 is a much better upgrade than DOT 5. The new DOT 5.1 is more compatible and has all the higher performance qualities that you're looking for. BTW, I'd ask the FORD dealer near you to flush and upgrade the fluid. I can't imagine it would run anywhere near the cost of upgrading to rear discs.

DOT brake fluid explanation and charts

Boiling Point Dry Wet
DOT 3/ 401º F/ 284º F
DOT 4/ 446º F/ 311º F
DOT 5/ 500º F/ 356º F
DOT 5.1/ 518º F/ 375º F

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EXACTLY! DOT 5.1 is a much better upgrade than DOT 5. The new DOT 5.1 is more compatible and has all the higher performance qualities that you're looking for. BTW, I'd ask the FORD dealer near you to flush and upgrade the fluid. I can't imagine it would run anywhere near the cost of upgrading to rear discs.

DOT brake fluid explanation and charts

Boiling Point Dry Wet
DOT 3/ 401º F/ 284º F
DOT 4/ 446º F/ 311º F
DOT 5/ 500º F/ 356º F
DOT 5.1/ 518º F/ 375º F

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You can do this,
It'll do no harm,
Don't Expect an Improvement on the road, On the track, maybe you will get an improvement.
Normal road driving will never take brakefluid to anywhere near boiling point.
Your brakefluid is brand new and should have practically no water in it.
 
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