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For some reason I am reminded of the story about a guy who, some would say, carried himself with an air of undeserved superiority.

He’s in a restaurant and puts the waiter on immediate notice that “I don’t eat anything that has a central nervous system”.

“How about the escargot” replied the waiter. “Is that dumb enough for you?”
 

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That's only partially true. It's not the weight, it's the "oil spec". Each vehicle has it's own oil spec. BMW has LL-01 while some Ford vehicles may require WSS-M2C937A. Even if both oils were the same viscosity, you could not interchange them. A warranty can only be voided if the WRONG oil spec was used. The Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act makes it so that you can legally use any oil you wish as long as it meets the manufacturer's specs. If the manufacturer "requires" you to use a certain brand oil, then by federal law they are required to provide that oil to you free of charge, per Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.
The manufacturer has to prove, with a degree of certainty, that the failure was a direct result of the oil used and could not possibly have any other cause.

Your claim of the manufacturer being required to provide you with oil, free of charge, does not hold water. In fact, it's stated no where in the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.

Instead of going to the FTC webpage and then making assumptions, I went and read the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act.
 

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Yep. Funny how NONE of my vehicles ever have a single problem and run like new for as long as I drive them when I use these oils. [headbang]
My 1986 Ford Ranger ran on nothing but Pennzoil for 14 years without issue. My 1995 Ranger ran whatever was cheapest and had no issues. My dad's 1997 Ford Ranger has only had 3 oil changes in the last 10 years and has yet to have a single issue. My mom's 1985 Ford Escort ran whatever oil was cheapest and had no issues. Oil only affects the engine. It has no affect on the rest of the vehicle, so to attribute zero issues simply to the oil is very naive. Running Amsoil won't stop bulbs from blowing out, or tires from getting punctured by nails, etc. Not a single vehicle I've owned has suffered an engine failure as a result of running any oil.
 

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My 1986 Ford Ranger ran on nothing but Pennzoil for 14 years without issue. My 1995 Ranger ran whatever was cheapest and had no issues. My dad's 1997 Ford Ranger has only had 3 oil changes in the last 10 years and has yet to have a single issue. My mom's 1985 Ford Escort ran whatever oil was cheapest and had no issues. Oil only affects the engine. It has no affect on the rest of the vehicle, so to attribute zero issues simply to the oil is very naive. Running Amsoil won't stop bulbs from blowing out, or tires from getting punctured by nails, etc. Not a single vehicle I've owned has suffered an engine failure as a result of running any oil.
While you may have gotten lucky with those cheap oils, you really didn't save anything. Add up how much money you wasted on TONS of excessive oil changes not including the fuel economy you lost. Amsoil is way cheaper, if not free with the rebates at the pump.

100% of every person I have ever spoken to who has ever blown an engine WERE NOT using Amsoil. Amsoil has never had an oil-related failure in over 40 years. They warranty parts and labor in writing if their extended drains ever cause an engine failure.

Bulbs burning out and punctures tires are nothing compared to the cost of replacing an engine or transmission. Once you have those major failures on a car with 100,000 to 200,000 miles, it often costs more to replace the engine than what the vehicle is worth.

So while most people are changing their oil up to 33 times for every 100,000 miles of driving, I often get by changing my oil 5 to 7 times during that same time. Not that I am a big tree hugger by any means, but using oil excessively is wasting a natural resource. Even if you do your own oil change, you are wasting time driving to the store all of those extra times, changing the oil and then driving again to dump the oil. And while you get no real benefit of using those cheaper oils, I often enjoy an extra 1 to 3 MPG boost in fuel economy. Those fuel savings end up paying for the oil in the long run. My fuel savings exceed the cost of the oil, so that means the oil was free.

When you drive 1,000 miles per week and you get alarmed by what you're paying for fuel and maintenance, that's when you start getting creative trying to figure out how to save money. I've run the numbers over and over. Every time I have figured out spreadsheets and see what I was paying for oil, fuel, etc, Amsoil ALWAYS saved me the most money, even though it costs more per oil change. How can something else save you more if you have to change it more often? You don't buy tires that last 5,000 miles do you? Why would you buy oil that has to be changed more often? It's a HASSLE that I don't want or need.
 

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Same thing almost happened with the first ever oil change on my Escape. It wants 5W-30 but they quoted 5W-20...

I wonder how many people don't even realize
 

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While you may have gotten lucky with those cheap oils, you really didn't save anything.
My grandfather has a 1969 Ford F100 Explorer pickup. Still on the original engine. Damn thing passed 200K more than 2 decades ago. Has been running Pennzoil since 1969. We're well past luck.... 49 years and still going... Let me know when Amsoil has an engine on the road that long.

Also, I know for a fact that engines running Amsoil have failed within the last 40 years. I've personally replaced several engines that have been run on Amsoil.

While we're at it, how much is Amsoil paying you for advertising for them here?

Amsoil would cost me almost double what Royal Purple or Redline would since no place local to me carries Amsoil. In fact, no place local to me even recommends Amsoil.....lol
 

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If you think the only factor in engines grenading is whether or not they use Amsoil, you show your ignorance. You must be associated with them in some way to be spewing this garbage.

“I often enjoy an extra 1 to 3 MPG boost in fuel economy.”

Wow. No shyte. With all of the variations in a commute over a tank of gas, you can measure a 1 mpg difference? Dude...
 

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If you think the only factor in engines grenading is whether or not they use Amsoil, you show your ignorance. You must be associated with them in some way to be spewing this garbage.

“I often enjoy an extra 1 to 3 MPG boost in fuel economy.”

Wow. No shyte. With all of the variations in a commute over a tank of gas, you can measure a 1 mpg difference? Dude...
In a Focus, a 1mpg gallon difference is completely unnoticeable....whether it be at the pump, in the wallet or on the road. That's only 12-14 miles per tank. I can do that simply by changing shift points....as can anyone else driving a manual.
 

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My grandfather has a 1969 Ford F100 Explorer pickup. Still on the original engine. Damn thing passed 200K more than 2 decades ago. Has been running Pennzoil since 1969. We're well past luck.... 49 years and still going... Let me know when Amsoil has an engine on the road that long.

Also, I know for a fact that engines running Amsoil have failed within the last 40 years. I've personally replaced several engines that have been run on Amsoil.

While we're at it, how much is Amsoil paying you for advertising for them here?

Amsoil would cost me almost double what Royal Purple or Redline would since no place local to me carries Amsoil. In fact, no place local to me even recommends Amsoil.....lol
Uh, that would be nice if I could get paid. I don't feel like stocking that stuff for nobody. I only use it for myself.

I think that's a little over 200k miles. Funny how he didn't have any wear.

I spoke with some guy in the midwest some place years back telling me how his father used this same oil and would put 200k miles on the car doing the 25k mile oil changes. He would sell the car to some guy and he would put another 200k miles on them. That was one of the reasons that compelled me to try this stuff. I have NEVER ran into a single person that had a failure with this oil. I don't know why you all are so against it. These are the very first people to pioneer synthetic oil in the first place.

Maybe I should switch to Schaeffer oil next.

How often do you change Royal Purple? That costs more than Amsoil. I change my oil every 15,000 miles with Amsoil now. So about 6 times for every 100,000 miles. How many times would I have to change the oil every 100,000 miles with Royal Purple? And how much does it cost for the oil and a Royal Purple filter?
 

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Uh, that would be nice if I could get paid. I don't feel like stocking that stuff for nobody. I only use it for myself.

I think that's a little over 200k miles. Funny how he didn't have any wear.
Try finding a source that isn't directly connected to Amsoil.... That site is owned by an Amsoil Jobber, John Schlimmer, which makes it nothing but a marketing site for Amsoil and the exact type of site that a shill would be using as "proof"....

I have NEVER ran into a single person that had a failure with this oil. I don't know why you all are so against it.
Amsoil is the only oil company that uses shills on web forums like this one to advertise their product. Their shills claim they are not being paid for such advertisement, yet use only websites connected to Amsoil to serve as "evidence" of their claims. They also claim that no engine has ever failed while running Amsoil, though it's a proven lie. In this case, the website being used as "evidence" is owned by John Schlimmer, who is an Amsoil dealer. The "success story" posted at the top of the page, is also from John Schlimmer (the site's owner)..... Of all the searches I've done, I have yet to find a 3rd party site posting any information to support the claims made by Amsoil or their dealers, without such information being sourced directly from Amsoil or one of their dealers' sites.
 
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