[Megageek007]

I really would like to swap the engine in my 2013 titanium for a 2.0 Turbo off a 2013 ST.

Is this possible?
What would I have to change to do so?

Thanks in advance

 

[felixthecat]

Yea, you could & you'd want the suspension & brakes along w/ the trans. Possibly some of the wiring & pcm. Have you thought about the price difference in a used st & what your car is worth?

 

[Megageek007]

Found the motor for 2k (6000 miles) however, I was told my titanium had the performance suspension I just need to change the disk on the breaks to a bigger size. As far as the transmission goes, could I not use the one I have?

 

[cbdallas]

I'd suspect if you use the ST's pcm and the Titanium's transmission, some logic may not work. Shift light / reverse sensing / backup camera come to mind.

 

[sailor]

Moved to Engine & Trans swap section.

You didn't happen to mention trans type.

Automatic (DCT) won't work with the swapped ECU/Wiring for sure.

 

[tallted]

It's doable. The thing is, do you have the money or knowledge to do it yourself?
If you have the money, would it be easier to just trade up?

 

[SEFocus2012]

I'd say to do it right you'd need :

the wiring harness from the 2.0T along with all the computers

the trans from the ST (sure, a stick shift 5 speed would work, but c'mon...)

suspension from the ST ( sure, it would run fine on a N/A suspension, but c'mon...)



The ST has a lot of different stuff in it than just the turbo. It definitely would NOT be a plug-n-play swap.

Older, non computerized cars are easy. Take a 89 S10 truck and drop whatever carbureted engine you want into it. Beef up the other components, and bam- you're off to the moon. Honestly, for the time, effort, hospital bills, and costs of equipment, and quarters in the swear jar you'd probably be able to buy a new GT mustang and smoke the an ST anyways.



If you are looking for a "sleeper", It would be so much more easy and cost-effective to buy an ST and stick Titanium front/ rear bumpers and skirts and spoilers on it.

 

[tallted]

Mechanical I can do, paint I can't.
I started a thread in the engine swap section putting together info on what this swap will actually take, but nobody has posted in it lol.

 

[matmatician]

I'd say to do it right you'd need :

the wiring harness from the 2.0T along with all the computers

the trans from the ST (sure, a stick shift 5 speed would work, but c'mon...)

suspension from the ST ( sure, it would run fine on a N/A suspension, but c'mon...)


The ST has a lot of different stuff in it than just the turbo. It definitely would NOT be a plug-n-play swap.

Honestly, for the time, effort, hospital bills, and costs of equipment, and quarters in the swear jar you'd probably be able to buy a new GT mustang and smoke the an ST anyways.



If you are looking for a "sleeper", It would be so much more easy and cost-effective to buy an ST and stick Titanium front/ rear bumpers and skirts and spoilers on it.

^^^This, especially when anything involving computers is involved.

 

[SEFocus2012]

Lemme take a sec to apologize if i seemed like i was doubting you in any way. If you've got the brains, braun, and green to do it, by all means, captain, go for it.
the only things i see that is a must have, granted the computers and harness comes with that motor, is a damn good schematics book for the N/A and the turbo, and a 6speed transmission (or equivalent, as long as it fits and works). If you don't get the trans, all i see happening is many many gear/flywheel/trans parts being replaced and a bunch of horses you cannot use. Please keep everyone updated!!!

P.s ford racing sells the 2.0T but no harness or computers come with it for 8 g's.. So even of you get the motor and put it on a [][][][][][] gokart you are still getting one HELL of a deal.

 

[Joeywhat]

I'm not sure the transmissions will swap between the two motors. You would probably need the ST gearbox.

 

[SEFocus2012]

That's what i think, but surely, SURELY there is some transmission that is the same brand that will fit.

 

[tallted]

I am fairly certain the bellhousing bolt pattern on the ecoboost and NA are the same.
I have wiring diagrams for the NA and ST and they are almost the exact same. Ford racing sells the harness and computer for an extra 1k. I see ST motors on craigslist for about 2k though and trans from 500-1k. Thats asking price not selling though.

 

[felixthecat]

I'm not sure the transmissions will swap between the two motors. You would probably need the ST gearbox.

For sure you'd want to use the 6spd st trans.

 

[tallted]

For sure you'd want to use the 6spd st trans.

I actually read some kit car forums saying they preferred the mtx-75 over the mmt-6 (I believe that is the designation) because the gearing is better for autocross.

 

[felixthecat]

I actually read some kit car forums saying they preferred the mtx-75 over the mmt-6 (I believe that is the designation) because the gearing is better for autocross.

That very well could be. And you could possibly have more gear ratio options.

 

[SEFocus2012]

That very well could be. And you could possibly have more gear ratio options.

But if you aren't autocrossing, then the 6 speed would be the way to go. For enough money you could get Ken Block's fiesta trans, but does not mean you should. I just see the extra hp and torque of the 2.0T turning a stock lil 5 speed trans into a blender

 

[felixthecat]

But if you aren't autocrossing, then the 6 speed would be the way to go. For enough money you could get Ken Block's fiesta trans, but does not mean you should. I just see the extra hp and torque of the 2.0T turning a stock lil 5 speed trans into a blender

I'd throw the 6spd on board. Yea you could use a $20,000 6-spd sequential Xtrax trans. The mtx75 will take a lot of punishment & you can get different gear ratios.

 

[sailor]

Weak spot is the Diff. spider gears, putting enough power down you'd want an LSD anyways.

 

[puffingonj]

I doubt a stock st engine or even hopped up a little bit would "destroy" an mtx-75 unless the driver misses shifts all the time.